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Way to make the new guy feel welcome Dawg! :-(

ASACN...it was an old thread and you'll know better in the future. Welcome aboard and we look forward to your input as we get a lot of learning to sail question I'm sure you can help with without getting "commercial".
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I found ASACN's reply helpful, as there was not yet a reply from an 'authoritative' resource on this subject. It was today that I found this thread using a google search on 'ASA US Sailing' as I wanted to compare the two. Good information, I think anyway. ASACN's post was clear, concise, and appreciated.
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Uh oh, first post opening an old (well sorta) post. I think I hear a dog scratching at the door...

FWIW, I am not certified and was looking at possible vacation spots to take a course and sent out a few queries. Some of them did not have instruction, just chartering and every single one repsonded that if I had reasonable experience (even with my little boat and I was completely honest) they could spend a little time getting me comfortable in a boat and let me charter without certification.
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Another innocent dogbite victim on Sailnet, Cam, you simply MUST post those "Beware of Dog" signs on the gate again. I think most charter companies give as much weight to a platinum Mastercard as your sailing resume.
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Don't jump on Dog for jumping on that guy last year. Praise him for showing restraint this year (you know we love you, right Dog?).

I did get some indication that insurability and a decent credit rating was a requirement with or without certification and that sailing competence had to be demonstrated either way also.
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I plan on reviving one of my own threads as soon as our first sail of the season...The Dog can bite me...
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I have purchased the books to both sets of courses, and compared price and number of course hours at our local sailing clubs.

My conclusion: they are very similar (almost identical) - despite a friend of mine's unjustified claim that US sailing was "much more rigorous, and more expensive" - completely untrue.

Having gone through several of the courses now (through bare boat charter) I agree the quality of the individual instructors makes the difference, and this is left to luck (depends on who you get for a particular day) - but the books have the info and they are excellent.

Appreciated the post from the ASA executive (the best one on the topic) and found the subsequent critcism regarding "etiquette" entirely obnoxious, and completely lacking in etiquette
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Can we leave aside how old the original post was, or who either barked or bit, and what the board etiquette is?

I've taught in courses from both books, and teaching bases. In general, ASA is more cruising-orinted, and USSA is more racing oriented. I've done both, so my instruction includes both, consciously or unconconsciously.

That said, the quality of instruction (and the hands-on sailing) in whichever course is going to be the more important factor in whether it's useful to the students, and whether they learn how to sail, either around the racing marks or from port to port.
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Wow dog mellow out! If it so offended you why did you take the time to type a reply!
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