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post #31 of 50 Old 09-19-2011
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I own a sailing school, an ASA school. Having been in the business (9 years)of a sailing school and bare boat charters the most important part is practicing the skills you have learned after the class is over. Look for a school that charters/rents the boats you have learned on. We rent the boats our students learn on; boats from 23 ft to 42 ft. That said; it is our risk to make sure you really know what you are doing. Look for schools that include free practice sails or rentals. Steer clear of the guy who quickly certifies you on his boat but won't allow you to sail her there after.
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Re: ASA vs. US Sailing

Wow, great information from all. I enjoyed the walk through the last ten years of opinions. I'm looking to get my instructor certifications and knowing that ASA has more schools and are oriented on cruising helps.

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ASA will do much more than simply show you the basics, a affiliated schools can teach you everything you need to be a skilled and experienced sailor, including helping you earn your sailing certification. Through the combination of nonprofit organizations that have expanded affordable access to sailing resources and ASA's varied catalog of sailing classes, sailing is accessible to virtually everyone.

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Even the school managers seem to admit that it takes more than a few days of training to truly create a sailor. Practice, practice can get you to more than just Carnegie Hall. Time on the water is a wonderful thing, though even that gets better with the occasional review and critique.
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Actually, Saildog, it is now seven years later still and that 2007 post was a very useful conclusion to the 2002 posts.

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Reviving this thread again

This is actually quite useful. I've wanted to do this almost my entire life, and I start my first sailing course in a week and a half. I'm stoked!

I guess I could just say "bump" - Lol!

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I teach at both an ASA sailing and US Sailing affiliate.

Emphasis with US Sailing is performance and safety.
Emphasis with ASA is practicality (what to do when...) and safety.
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I teach at both an ASA sailing and US Sailing affiliate.

Emphasis with US Sailing is performance and safety.
Emphasis with ASA is practicality (what to do when...) and safety.
I have a question for you.

I started reading the ASA 103 textbook as I start my BCC class in a couple of weeks. The book course is based on a typical 33' cruiser, but my school will be using the same 25' Merit's with an outboard, that I sailed in my basic keel class. Even though they have 5 Catalina 27's in their club that seem more suited to the study material.

So how common is this? I know 25' is the minimum ASA standard for a BCC class, but after searching a few schools online, it seems many (or most?) use larger boats with inboard diesels or do I have the wrong impression?
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I teach at an ASA school. We would find that unacceptable. The only keelboat course you teach with on a tiller and outboard engine is ASA 101.

We teach ASA 101 on the new ASA 22;

We teach 103/104/106 on a Beneteau 40

Seems like the school is ripping of their students.


QUOTE=pdxskipper;3496122]I have a question for you.

I started reading the ASA 103 textbook as I start my BCC class in a couple of weeks. The book course is based on a typical 33' cruiser, but my school will be using the same 25' Merit's with an outboard, that I sailed in my basic keel class. Even though they have 5 Catalina 27's in their club that seem more suited to the study material.

So how common is this? I know 25' is the minimum ASA standard for a BCC class, but after searching a few schools online, it seems many (or most?) use larger boats with inboard diesels or do I have the wrong impression?[/QUOTE]

There isn't a device on this world that can measure the indifference I have for that statement.

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I have a question for you.

I started reading the ASA 103 textbook as I start my BCC class in a couple of weeks. The book course is based on a typical 33' cruiser, but my school will be using the same 25' Merit's with an outboard, that I sailed in my basic keel class. Even though they have 5 Catalina 27's in their club that seem more suited to the study material.

So how common is this? I know 25' is the minimum ASA standard for a BCC class, but after searching a few schools online, it seems many (or most?) use larger boats with inboard diesels or do I have the wrong impression?
Yeah, I would say that is odd. The educational requirements of the class are listed here: https://asa.com/certifications/asa-1...stal-cruising/

I'm not sure a Merit 25 is going to have some of those systems that are part of the curriculum for 103.

The Bay Area club/school I took classes at taught each class on a progressively larger boats. Starting with 26' keelboats that had a tiller and outboard for BK (similar to ASA 101), progressing to 30'+ boats with wheel and inboard for BC (ASA 103), and using 40' boat for BBC (104).

A larger boat would also be a better step up should you take ASA 104 which is taught on boats 30'-40'.
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