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What's this for?

I cringe to have to advertise my continuing ignorance this way, but I figure it's better to ask and learn...

What is the purpose of the smaller winch on the side of the main mast? The sails aren't so heavy that I need help raising them.

The aggravating thing is I'm up to 3 beginning sailing books so far, and none of them mention it.
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The winch is for tensioning the halyard if necessary.. not so much for raising the sail in the first place. If you sailing upwind you want the draft of the mainsail (deepest part of the curve) at the mid point or slightly forward of that, if the halyard isn't tight enough the draft of the sail is too far aft, creating extra weather helm, more drag and there fore less drive.

Typically you'd hoist the sail and tension it until you had a vertical wrinkle in the sail before setting off beating up wind (the wrinkle will disappear when loaded unless the halyard's too tight), and less tension (without the wrinkle) in lighter wind and down wind conditions.

Similarly you want the tension of the jib halyard appropriately set too... too tight means draft too far forward, a wider entry angle and poorer pointing ability.
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Yup

If there's a cleat below it that you secure your halyard to....then the winch is there for your main halyard..

you may not need it to raise the sail...but you could wrap the halyard around it before tying it off on the cleat...to help keep the tension...
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it was put there so you can take it off and put it on the roof of the cabin with a rope clutch behind it so you can raise and lower the main from the cockpit when you single hand! (kidding of course, until your ready )
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Great answer, Denise030!
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it was put there so you can take it off and put it on the roof of the cabin with a rope clutch behind it so you can raise and lower the main from the cockpit when you single hand! (kidding of course, until your ready )
LOL.... good one!
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Ahhh..thanks for that. I appreciate the detail that was put into your answers. Denise, you're clever!
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That part is for newbies to ask questions, get Excellent answers from some ALA faster, reasonably correct but facetious answers from Denise, but a very good what to do with said winch.........

Then there is my answer, which is none of the above. ie Goofy in more ways than one.

So now that we are done, time to go watch the 3rd "Lord of the Rings" installment on TNT or some channel there of when "Men in Black" is over!

I removed the one on my rig, useless POS!

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