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I've made it about halfway through. What these people did or didn't do could be debated all day long and as this is a Lifesling case study the obvious thread of commonality is "if only they'd had a Lifesling..." or in some cases "But because they had a Lifesling...".

I'll just say that since my last sail, I've continued my purchases of relevant safety equipment (of all types) and that we'll train with it as soon as temperatures safely allow.
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You know, if sailing wasn't so damn fun - it would be real easy to never want to get anywhere near the water with all this stuff. Jeez!
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Not to hash over what has been discussed before.

None of those cases mentioned what safety gear they had. In particular the Port Madison case as that is one of my favorite spots to go.

I'll ref as I know the conditions.

PNW waters are typically 40 degrees yr round (avg), go over board w or w/o a life vest... you have about 7 minutes before hypothermia sets in. Doesn't matter how fat, fit, or how mentally survival you think you are.

Lets get one thing straight - a lifesling is just a recovery device and it relies on the fact the one to be recovered is able to use it. Even harder, if you can already have crew with an a offshore lifevest. Most are not smart enough in panic to to just connect the line from the LifeSling to a d-ring on the lifevest (if so equipped), to allow them to be pulled with no personal interaction less making the connection. Here is the ultimate design flaw - LifeSling is designed for someone that doesn't have a life vest. Think about it. No way to put a Lifesling - foam or inflatable under your lifevest (assuming you do due diligence in outfitting the crew)...

It acts on the principle that the MOB is conscious enough to grab it, and designed assuming they have no lifevest. No way in heck you can get it the foam version or the auto inflate version (one of each on mine) if you have a functional inflating lifevest. Most that have Lifeslings do not have a 5:1 boom shackle device to handle the recovery effort to begin with (I do).


Something to think about as you contemplate you MOB procedures. Reason why not to rely on Lifesling - it is aux equipment. Your life vest should have d-rings and crew capable of bring the boat close enough that if it requires someone diving to connect a retrieval line - it can be done.

Fact - 90% off all that go overboard - are rendered unconscious within 5 minutes of doing so....
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Well said jody ,, and if your in a pantic situation that can be a lot less
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Well said jody ,, and if your in a pantic situation that can be a lot less

Panic is the worse... it cuts survival time to about three and a half minutes.
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I'd point out that a large number of the MOB accidents I've seen happen or read about, happened once the boat was "safe" in their home harbor.

Most people will take every precaution when they're out on the open ocean, and the boat is rolling from side to side and the waves are heavy.... but, once they're back in the harbor... in the calmer conditions...a lot of times, people get too complacent once they're back in familiar waters...and they let their guard down.
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right on again ...
happened to me last weekend ... right in my slip ... tired ... not following 'plan' ... tripped off the bow ready to jump onto the dock and tie her up ...
learned much that day

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