Tacking - Page 2 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Skills and Seamanship > Learning to Sail
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #11  
Old 04-07-2001
Jeff_H's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
Posts: 6,677
Thanks: 5
Thanked 105 Times in 81 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Jeff_H has a spectacular aura about Jeff_H has a spectacular aura about Jeff_H has a spectacular aura about
Tacking

First of all, you should not necessarily tighten the mainsheet. Centering the traveler will not center the mainsail but will actually leave the boom to slightly to leeward. This slightly eased mainsail position will help with acceleration out of the tack and will reduce the likelihood of a knockdown if you turn too far through the turn.

As to the placing the traveler windward or leeward per the wind speed, in light air you want more twist in your sails up wind becase the air speed is faster higher up and so the sail up high is sailing in different wind than the sail down low. In lighter winds the traveller should be well to windward and the boom should be on the centerline of the boat.
In heavier air the sail should be bladed out and so the traveler should be carried well to leeward and a lot of mainsheet, outhaul and halyard tension to flatten the sail.

I suggest that you might look for a book with a chapter or two on sail trim. I am not putting you down here (we all had to start somewhere) but these are hard concepts to explain over the internet.
Good luck
Jeff
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #12  
Old 04-09-2001
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Bilge_Scum is on a distinguished road
Tacking

One thing I found was that if you come about too quickly, you are likely to go over (in something like a Laser). I was tipping over all day in one (light winds) until somebody told me to slow it down. I followed their advice and had no problem getting situated and balanced in the tack. Before then, I had a knot on my head and a bloody elbow from that nasty boom.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #13  
Old 04-09-2001
fer@fer's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 98
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 15
fer@fer is on a distinguished road
Tacking

Hi Jeff.

People over 50, should keep the keyboard moving slowly.

Now this link may help the new fellows willing to read sail trim in the net.

Regards.

Fernando
<a href="http://www.uksailmakers.com/encyclopedia.html#1"> http://www.uksailmakers.com/encyclopedia.html#1 </a>
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #14  
Old 08-03-2001
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
pkrupela is on a distinguished road
Tacking

not to try to simplify things - because sail trim really does take a lot of study and practice to get it right... but you typically tack while beating to windward... therefore your mainsheet should be left alone since your new attack angle will be 90 degrees or less (depending on boat design) from your original course. Your traveller position will depend primarily on wind strength... I don''t center the traveller before tacking - especially in light air... by doing so, you lose boat speed by reducing your angle of attack before the tack. I simply reposition the traveller after I complete the tack.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #15  
Old 10-14-2001
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
debbabcock is on a distinguished road
Tacking

I need a little advice on tacking. Irecently purchased a Helson 22 with no sailing experience. I''ve been out about 7 or 8 times and i feel I''m finally getting the hang of it.However, I cant seem to figure out after a tack and the jib is reset on the opposite side the boat seems to continue to turn in new direction eventhough I center the helm. What am I doing wrong? While in a tack I am supposed to release the jib sheets right? I have been sailing on a very small lake with light to moderate winds.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #16  
Old 10-14-2001
Jeff_H's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
Posts: 6,677
Thanks: 5
Thanked 105 Times in 81 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Jeff_H has a spectacular aura about Jeff_H has a spectacular aura about Jeff_H has a spectacular aura about
Tacking

I am not sure that I completely understand your question. If I understand it correctly, when you tack the boat swings through the wind and continues to swing past the point that you want to stop swinging even though you are centering the helm.

There are a few posibilies here. First of all boats develop momentum in a turn that tries to continue the turn. You actually must turn the helm slightly past center and in order to stop this momentum and reverse the helm slightly in advance of when you want to stop the swing.

Then the jib may be hanging up on the shrouds. This backwinds the jib and pulls the bow off to leeward.

Another posibility is that you are losing to much speed in the tack. When a boat, especially a centerboard boat is going slowly the keel can stall out allowing the bow to pay off a little.

While the problem can be a fault of the design, rig tune or sail trim, more likely than not it is a matter of getting the feel of when to reverse the helm and how much to reverse it.

Jeff
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #17  
Old 10-21-2001
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 24
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
dimwit is on a distinguished road
Tacking

I agree, Deb. It has to be one of two things:
1) the jib is allowed to back-fill too long (as soon as it helps push the bows across the wind, slack that sheet), or, more likely,
2) you''re assuming that centering the tiller once the main sets is sufficient to start off on your new point of sail. But there is always a slight delay, esp. in light air when boatspeed is low, when the keel "digs in," and you begin to accelerate on your new tack. During that moment, the bow can travel a great deal. In my 22ft. boat, pushing the tiller away (downwind) immediately after the main fills ensures that it''s the stern that will slip downwind instead of the bows, preserving my new heading. It''s normal, esp. in a small boat in light air or when you lose your boatspeed through your tack. (Remember, you have quite a bit less friction between keel and water than you do between tire and asphalt, and this is the moment of least fluid pressure on the keel. There is going to be some slip). It''s normal: keep practicing!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sloop, Cutter or Ketch jsgsail Boat Review and Purchase Forum 17 12-26-2008 03:47 PM
New to Sailing, please Help =) xyris Learning to Sail 19 11-17-2008 09:30 AM
self tacking solutions bayme General Discussion (sailing related) 3 06-02-2003 02:05 PM
Self-Tacking Jibs murph182 Boat Review and Purchase Forum 2 02-22-2002 07:52 AM
Tacking thru "No Go Zone" JeffH Learning to Sail 1 05-31-2001 03:38 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:05 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.