Diesel engine course in SF bay - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Skills and Seamanship > Learning to Sail
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 04-05-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Francisco Bay area
Posts: 2,279
Thanks: 2
Thanked 44 Times in 44 Posts
Rep Power: 4
MarkSF is on a distinguished road
Diesel engine course in SF bay

Can anyone recommend a course in the SF bay area? I have a Universal 5424 and would like to learn how to maintain it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 04-05-2011
KeelHaulin's Avatar
STARBOARD!!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,662
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 10
KeelHaulin will become famous soon enough KeelHaulin will become famous soon enough
KKMI has free seminars now and then. Check their website.

General maintenance is regular oil (and filter) changes (every 100 hours or so); or at least annually. Replace the heat exchanger zinc regularly. Depending on the size of the zinc and the amount of eletrical activity in your marina you will need to change it more or less often. Check it after 3 months and if it looks good then put it back in and re-check it at 6. When you see that it needs changing you can then set a schedule. Change your fuel filter(s) annually. Check your raw water impeller annually, change it if any of the blades begin to look cracked or worn.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 04-06-2011
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Francisco bay
Posts: 30
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
olgriz is on a distinguished road
Check with List Marine in Sausalito. They are great mechanics. They have a Diesel 101 course now and then. They charge, but it's about a 5 hour class and is very complete. Tom List has one of the best reputations on the west coast and his son, Hans, is continuing with it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 04-17-2011
wanderer
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
dohcdelsol93 is on a distinguished road
don't waste your time with classes.

Find a local diesel tech on craigslist that likes to sail, fish or even just drink beer out on the water.

In exchange for your beer/food/fuel/boat get him to show you the ropes of servicing your diesel.

I'm a small engine tech. I've worked with many many many guys that took classes at both private vocational schools and technical colleges and all of them had one thing in common...they knew enough to be dangerous.

It's nice to have a buddy you can call and ask "my engine is doing this, what can i do".

luckily diesels are pretty simple creatures.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 04-17-2011
LakeSuperiorGeezer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 551
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
LakeSuperiorGeezer is on a distinguished road
Well the List Marine in Sausalito sound good. About vocational school mechanics, my brother has a transmission shop and refuses to hire any of them. He is not against learning as he and the guys that work for him take in three transmission repair seminars a year.

The tech and vocational schools do not really teach a person how to do transmission repair, and the graduates think they know it all and many times will not listen and learn. He would rather start someone out pushing a broom and see how it goes from there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 04-17-2011
wanderer
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
dohcdelsol93 is on a distinguished road
teaching someone how to be a technician is like teaching someone to be an artist.

you can be taught to draw a circle or a line but we would never want to see your stuff on display at an art show.

They can teach you the basics of an engine but not give you the mechanical aptitude to diagnose issues real time. Many good techs can diagnose an engine before even before starting it and hearing it run.

I've got certifications from many of the larger small engine manufacturing companies (briggs MST, kohler, Stihl, etc) and they are pretty much about as handy as damp toilet paper.

I learned the ropes as lakesuperior said, i started by pushing a broom and cleaning air filters.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 05-02-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Francisco Bay area
Posts: 2,279
Thanks: 2
Thanked 44 Times in 44 Posts
Rep Power: 4
MarkSF is on a distinguished road
Well I recently did a minor overhaul on a Jaguar V12- new fan clutch, 12 injectors, a lot of fuel lines, 14 ignition leads, 2 thermostats, about 100 hoses, 1 injector wiring loom, all the millions of vacuum hoses, etc. So I can maintain a gasoline car engine. Just need to know the pitfalls of a marine diesel.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 05-02-2011
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Francisco bay
Posts: 30
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
olgriz is on a distinguished road
Well, if you can do all that, you won't have a problem with a marine diesel. Hans List of List Marine said that 95% of all marine diesel problems are in the fuel system—usually crud, water, or air in the line. These can be fixed by bleeding the primary and secondary fuel filters and the injection pump.

Again, I highly recommend going to the Diesel 101 class at List Marine in Sausalito. That way you're getting info from the best mechanics. If you listen to the guys on the dock, you'll get a different way/solution from each of them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Engine Oil for Marine Diesel CapnHand Diesel 28 08-05-2014 12:03 PM
Diesel engine help patrickbwells Gear & Maintenance 15 04-01-2007 05:37 PM
Diesel Engine Winterize LINC Announcements and Suggestions Box 1 09-30-2006 12:03 PM
Diesel Engine nancisboat Crew Wanted/Available 0 03-13-2001 09:49 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:16 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.