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You should be able to buy a highly functional (may not be the prettiest, but everything is in respectable shape) for along the lines of $800 to $1600 (including trailor)... for a Day Sailor along the lines of 14 to 18 Ft. Based on what you say about your background, as a solo skipper, you will be more than challenged to sail a day sailor sloop in 10 to 15 knots...

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You can get an old long board for next to nothing. You learn lots about wind and points of sail. I went from a windsurfer to a 33 ft keel boat. It helped, but not nearly as much as a dinghy would have.
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As an advanced windsurfer, I haven't advised anyone to start windsurfing in over 5 years. Kite surfing is the way to go IMO. Windsurfing is going to give you more applicable experience towards sailing a boat (mainly, sail trim), but it is a tough sport, and there are easier ways to get actual boat experience. Look in your area for crew lists in sailing magazines (we have several on line lists in the SF Bay Area, i.e., Goggle; "Latitude 38" ). Skippers are always looking for crew, and many want newbies to train "their way". Marinas and Yacht clubs are another resource. If you are reliable and have a good attitude, you should have no trouble finding a ride. You could be crewing in races in no time! But, I say... if you want to actually spend time IN the water, take kiting lessons.
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I kitesurf pretty regularly and I would say it's not much, if nothing.... if not the oppostie of sailing. I would 'guess' that a windsurf board would be more like it, but would say for the price of a "basic" kitesurfing setup, just look for a sunfish or something. Don't think you can get more than a few days a year on a basic kitesurfing set up, in sailing you adjust your sails... in kitesufing, you buy a different sized or shaped kite. If you like kitesurfing, then get into it, but don't into it because it's cheaper than sailing. It ain't.
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I would love to get some practice on the waves too. I was down in cornwall the other week watching the waves thinking it would be pretty cool to take the kite out. I can kind of picture how it would have gone though. probably similar to catching an edge when your snowboarding, only wetter! D

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Couldn't tell ya about using it as a learning experience, but watching a bunch of kite surfers at the Oregon coast this weekend definitely made me want to check it out. Looked like a blast. Googled some lessons, though, and it's almost as much as ASA lessons!
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Couldn't tell ya about using it as a learning experience, but watching a bunch of kite surfers at the Oregon coast this weekend definitely made me want to check it out. Looked like a blast. Googled some lessons, though, and it's almost as much as ASA lessons!
That may be, but you need the lessons to kite. I'm self taught in windsurfing and sailing (with a lot of help from others). However, with a kite, you are attached to a lot of power. You have to learn how to control the kite before hooking yourself to it. I would be very selective as to where I took the lessons. I have had ASA "graduates" on the boat who couldn't sail the boat if their life depended on it. With a kite, you can't afford to find out you don't know what you are doing when the wind suddenly picks up to 25 Knots! If you get overpowered on a sailboard, you eat it, the sail goes in the water and you regroup. At worst, you may have a long gnarly swim (I've had many!), and lose some gear. However, if you get overpowered on a kite and don't know how to handle it, you can be in for a very dangerous ride. Don't get me wrong, I think kiting is great and is basically safe. However, you need to know how to control the kite in all conditions.
Back on topic; I find that because I windsurf, I am much more conscious and knowledgeable about sail shape on boats than some more experienced Skippers I sail with. I'll never forget one time I was on another boat. The Skipper was mesmerized by the boat speed on his GPS, and was steering accordingly. His sails were screaming "trim me, trim me" and he was oblivious to it! On a sailboard, if you are not efficient (when either over or underpowered), you are often swimming. Great incentive to get the most out of a sail!

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Could be fake, but also seems possible:

Magic Malik Bouchenafa Kiteboard in Algeria - lift accident - YouTube

Yeah, I wasn't suggesting doing it without lessons, just that it's an expensive hobby to pick up. If and when I do, I imagine there are at least one or two pretty good teachers in the Columbia River Gorge.
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Could be fake, but also seems possible:

Magic Malik Bouchenafa Kiteboard in Algeria - lift accident - YouTube

Yeah, I wasn't suggesting doing it without lessons, just that it's an expensive hobby to pick up. If and when I do, I imagine there are at least one or two pretty good teachers in the Columbia River Gorge.
Yeah...but after the initial investment, no lift tickets or long drives to the slopes, and kiting pales in comparison to what I spend on a 30 foot sail boat in a year! If you live near the Gorge (aka- the Mecca of wind!), I say...GO FOR IT! I love my boat, mainly because of the amazing little vessel it is. However, some of the best days of my life have been spent ripping across the Golden Gate on my sailboards. No comparison!
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