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I might be able to bend the doger frame, although would rather not as I think the canvas would not fit well afterwards. The doder is actualy a fixed frame and cannot be lowered. I will try to play with the main to see if I can raise it enough or maybe put more outhual to see if I can get it to clear the dodger. Thanks for the comments, let me see what adjustments I can make and I will let you know the outcome.
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That's an interesting looking dodger. I've never seen one like it. I especially like it being white.
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The dodger is very simple and works well, both sailing and at anchor- leave companion way open and all stays dry even when raining. The frame is fixed (cannot be lowered) but the canvas can easily be removed. The frame is bolted to boat in only two places. The frame is very strong. Here is a better pic.
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Over the weekend had a chance to raise main at dock before high winds came through. The only way I can get the boom to clear the dodger is to place a line at the base of the sail to allow me to raise the sail up higher. Do you see any problems with this? I do have a cunningham that I could rig to provide downhaul tension. Do you think this is how the sail is supposed to be rigged?
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bring the tack of the main sail down to the boom then hoist the main. looks to me like you wounl have a little better sail ship .
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bring the tack of the main sail down to the boom then hoist the main. looks to me like you wounl have a little better sail ship .
I did not fully tighten the down haul which will help the sail's shape. If I bring the tack of the main sail down to the boom, then the boom will hit the dodger. I purposely tried to raise the tack to allow the boom to be raised higher.
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Those are good pictures Casey. I think you are going to have to alter the dodger. It really should be no large job to do this. It looks like you can easily lower the back arch by 4" or so, either by re bending which might look funny because the last arch would not match the previous two or by shortening it which will require a re-cut of the canvas. I would first try rebending it and see how it works. If not, then cut 4" off the rear arch, sliding the hinged arches up 4" and get the canvas recut along the arch, leaving everything else as it is. If you can't trim the sails properly, I don't see any alternative.

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Those are good pictures Casey. I think you are going to have to alter the dodger. It really should be no large job to do this. It looks like you can easily lower the back arch by 4" or so, either by re bending which might look funny because the last arch would not match the previous two or by shortening it which will require a re-cut of the canvas. I would first try rebending it and see how it works. If not, then cut 4" off the rear arch, sliding the hinged arches up 4" and get the canvas recut along the arch, leaving everything else as it is. If you can't trim the sails properly, I don't see any alternative.
Do you think the sail was cut wrong or has stretched over time? Or is the dodger too high?
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Your dodger does look higher than a typically frame, but i would not starting changing it as the fit looks very well done.

My advice would be to have a sail maker raise the clew (thus the aft end of the boom) by shortening the leech as needed, say 6". Or treat yourself to a new main.

PS - any reason that you do not have a reefing line(s) run?

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SF may have a good idea about making a new mainsail. The sail you have could even be recut. If the boat is a modern design, predominantly headsail powered, a few feet missing from the lower part of the mainsail will probably not make much difference. It would likely result in better performance since you wouldn't have to worry about pulling the gooseneck down with downhaul tension. Having the right tension along the luff makes a LOT of difference in performance when you're close hauled.

I would check the design specs. of the sail system first to determine if the existing sail is the right one. You may discover that the sail is not the right sail in the first place. Which came first, the dodger or the sail?

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Your dodger does look higher than a typically frame, but i would not starting changing it as the fit looks very well done.

My advice would be to have a sail maker raise the clew (thus the aft end of the boom) by shortening the leech as needed, say 6". Or treat yourself to a new main.

PS - any reason that you do not have a reefing line(s) run?
This pic show better. Have the upper reef lines run which are the ones I use. The main is pretty worn, but will try to get some more years out of her, then in the future get a main that fits well. Would rather not alter the dodger as the dodger is also worn (UV) and trying to recut and stich the material would probably not work well. Stainless work is also expensive here. Raising the clew is probably a good idea. This pic shows the sail raised and how it would hit the dodger.
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