Question about mainsail troubles. - Page 5 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Skills and Seamanship > Learning to Sail
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #41  
Old 12-06-2011
casey1999's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: HI
Posts: 2,984
Thanks: 10
Thanked 31 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 5
casey1999 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by smurphny View Post
SF may have a good idea about making a new mainsail. The sail you have could even be recut. If the boat is a modern design, predominantly headsail powered, a few feet missing from the lower part of the mainsail will probably not make much difference. It would likely result in better performance since you wouldn't have to worry about pulling the gooseneck down with downhaul tension. Having the right tension along the luff makes a LOT of difference in performance when you're close hauled.

I would check the design specs. of the sail system first to determine if the existing sail is the right one. You may discover that the sail is not the right sail in the first place. Which came first, the dodger or the sail?
The dodger frame has been on the boat since first built (1978). The sail was made by Horizon Sails Austrailia- seems this company is no longer in buisness- I have e-mailed and get no response and there web site does not open. This main is about 5 years old but has one 3 year circumnavigation on her by PO so has a lot of UV damage.

Last edited by casey1999; 12-06-2011 at 01:39 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #42  
Old 12-06-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 287
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 4
captflood is on a distinguished road
GREETINGS EATHLING The topping lift can also be used to de-power the main sail by pulling it in, so the boom is about 45 deegrees to the mast it;s called scandelizing the main and is very hand when aproaching too fast to sow the boat down or just decrease the driveing force GO SAFE.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #43  
Old 12-06-2011
zz4gta's Avatar
I don't discuss my member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 8
zz4gta is on a distinguished road
If it was a race main in a previous life, you might have a floating tack. Talk to a sailmaker before making any changes.
__________________
Merit 25 # 764 "Audrey"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #44  
Old 12-06-2011
casey1999's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: HI
Posts: 2,984
Thanks: 10
Thanked 31 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 5
casey1999 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by captflood View Post
GREETINGS EATHLING The topping lift can also be used to de-power the main sail by pulling it in, so the boom is about 45 deegrees to the mast it;s called scandelizing the main and is very hand when aproaching too fast to sow the boat down or just decrease the driveing force GO SAFE.
Because of the way my boom is attached to mast, the angle is fixed to about 90 degrees. BTW, I am originally from saturn.
Regards
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #45  
Old 12-06-2011
smurphny's Avatar
Over Hill Sailing Club
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Adirondacks NY
Posts: 2,862
Thanks: 55
Thanked 64 Times in 62 Posts
Rep Power: 6
smurphny is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by casey1999 View Post
The dodger has been on the boat since first built (1978). The sail was made by Horizon Sails Austrailia- seems this company is no longer in buisness- I have e-mailed and get no response and there web site does not open. This main is about 5 years old but has one 3 year circumnavigation on her by PO so has a lot of UV damage.
Sounds like you're about due for a new main. I purchased a used spare main (for emergency use) from Atlantic Sail Traders for pennies on the dollar compared to a new sail. It is like new, still "crackly" and fits almost perfectly. Only has one reef but hey. The only thing I had to do was change the slides to fit my mast and boom. Think I paid $250. There are a lot of good used sails out there.
__________________
Alberg 35: With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #46  
Old 12-06-2011
casey1999's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: HI
Posts: 2,984
Thanks: 10
Thanked 31 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 5
casey1999 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by zz4gta View Post
If it was a race main in a previous life, you might have a floating tack. Talk to a sailmaker before making any changes.
As mentioned, not been able to contact Horizon Sails. What is a floating tack?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #47  
Old 12-06-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 287
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 4
captflood is on a distinguished road
GTREETINGS EARTHLINGS After you disconect the topping lift and the vang (the thing that supports the boom in the up possition) there must be some type of up and down movement . Try and see does this make a differance to the problem ! GO SAFE
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #48  
Old 12-06-2011
casey1999's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: HI
Posts: 2,984
Thanks: 10
Thanked 31 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 5
casey1999 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by captflood View Post
GTREETINGS EARTHLINGS After you disconect the topping lift and the vang (the thing that supports the boom in the up possition) there must be some type of up and down movement . Try and see does this make a differance to the problem ! GO SAFE
I can raise the topping lift and it will raise the boom some (maybe to an 80 degree angle to the main as there is some play at the boom/mast fitting). However I do not want to sail this way as there will be a lot of tension on the topping lift. I can also see where the topping lift (mine is a stainless steel cable) has cut a small groove in the aluminum mast head fitting, apparently because the boat may have been sailed with the topping lift under tension and when the boom is out, the topping lift will contact this part of the mast head fitting.
Regards
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #49  
Old 12-06-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 287
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 4
captflood is on a distinguished road
GREETINGS EARTHLING . Sounds as if the wire has jummped out of the sheath that allows the topping lift to slacken off this may meen a trip up the stick or a mast out ! Iether way use the experiance as a lerning curve and takea camra with you to record everything you see and find out GO SAFE
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #50  
Old 12-06-2011
casey1999's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: HI
Posts: 2,984
Thanks: 10
Thanked 31 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 5
casey1999 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by captflood View Post
GREETINGS EARTHLING . Sounds as if the wire has jummped out of the sheath that allows the topping lift to slacken off this may meen a trip up the stick or a mast out ! Iether way use the experiance as a lerning curve and takea camra with you to record everything you see and find out GO SAFE
No the wire is still in the sheave and always has been. The groove was cut when the boom was not in line with the boat's keel. When this happens, the topping lift will rub part of the mast head fitting. If the topping lift is loose, which it should be when main is raised, there will be no tension on the topping lift and no groove will be cut. I have been up the mast many times (mast steps help), will take pic next time- maybe this weekend.
Regards
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
head troubles...... twisted23 Gear & Maintenance 21 10-14-2010 10:22 AM
Maxsea and USB GPS troubles FollySailor Gear & Maintenance 2 07-08-2010 08:11 AM
overcoming some VHF and GPS troubles CaptainRonandAshley2 General Discussion (sailing related) 1 08-27-2008 05:38 AM
More 12v Troubles and ?'s Perithead Gear & Maintenance 7 11-26-2007 01:33 PM
Dumb Mainsail question dmelroy Gear & Maintenance 3 06-16-2006 02:26 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:58 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.