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Old 04-06-2012
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Re: Will learning to sail on a Cat ruin me forever?

I sold my S2 and bought a Stiletto 27. I started on sunfish and then went to cats. I enjoy sailing on cats and Monos, but once you have felt the speed of the cat, it's hard to give it up, plus it is a lot of fun to sail by those slow, fat boats!
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Re: Will learning to sail on a Cat ruin me forever?

Monohulls certainly can be beautiful to look at.; My Stiletto gave me the speed to sail over and look at all of them!

Now I have a somewhat slower cruising cat. I'm wistful.
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Re: Will learning to sail on a Cat ruin me forever?

IMHO the "cat v mono" debate is a bit of a red herring. Particularly insofar as the OP is a relative beginner & wants to sail on a lake... It's all very well talking about trapeze balance on the sea, but it's a bit pointless if the helmsman can't tack without getting stuck in irons.

There are good points and bad points about each. But at the end of the day, I can't imagine the OP is going to go off and try to decide between buying a Tornado or a 49er—if he gets into racing he can go off and buy a high-performance dinghy or cat when he's got the boat handling skills needed to sail one of those kind of boats. And if he does, the level of boat handling skill required—with all due respect to proponents of each—is pretty similar and pales into comparison with the tactical and strategic skill needed to race one of those things.

I would tend to think more about the prevailing wind conditions where the OP sails. If there's usually a solid breeze (13kt+) and plenty of space then it might be worth seriously considering a Hobie as that's pretty much their ideal environment. In my experience, Hobies are a fun sail in those kind of conditions even for beginners. The Bahia, being narrower and having less form stability, will be more of a handful and you're going to need to consider using the reefing system. Conversely, if you usually have relatively little wind (say 5–10 kts) or would be sailing in a confined space, a cat will probably be a bit of a waste of time.

FWIW, experienced cat and monohull sailors can usually step into/onto the other type of boat and make a fairly decent fist of things. That might not apply to cruisers (I've never seen the theory tested) but for dinghies and similar-sized cats, it generally holds true. There are minor differences, of course, but nothing that a bit of knowledge and practice won't fix.

As for the OP (if he's still bothering)—I stand by my original conclusion: try to go for a sail on each or on similar boats. One will seem more appropriate for your needs than the other.
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Re: Will learning to sail on a Cat ruin me forever?

I am the same way. I started out on a Hobie 16 and I am transitioning to mono hulls. The convienece of a mono hull like a Catalina 22 parked in a slip at the lake is great. Since the mast is already up you can just grab and go.

There is nothing that compares to flying a hull on our 16'. It's the thrill of a lifetime and yet it takes a small amount of skill, a good consistent wind and a slight gust to really get your heart racing with excitement. You won't be disappointed with a cat. You will get wet though, that's almost guaranteed.

I agree with what has been said, I think it's easier to transition from a cat to monohull.

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Re: Will learning to sail on a Cat ruin me forever?

Hobie 16 is great fun to sail and relatively easy to learn on. We've had one for a few years that now needs some work. The closeness to the water and looking through the trampoline sure gives you the feeling of speed. I bought a 420 last year but still havent had it out. Still waiting for the big yellow orb in the sky around here.
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