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Poor tacking on a Hobie

Sailed a16' hobie for the first time. It was a lot of fun but I had troubletacking. I think I was pushing the tiller too quickly and forcing too much water against the hulls but I'm not sure. Is anyone willing to walk me through the most common mistakes made on this type of boat? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Poor tacking on a Hobie

Were you sailing bare headed (no jib)? Cats typically will not tack without the jib. And because the Hobie 16 is so light and wide, you must have a fair amount of way on to get through the tack, even with the jib.

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Re: Poor tacking on a Hobie

Easy with the tiller and backwind the jib if need be. Light winds can be trickier. You'll get used to it.
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Poor tacking on a Hobie

In some cases it's just easier to jibe. As stated above, back winding the jib can be a real help.
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It's a cat, jibe.
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Re: Poor tacking on a Hobie

I owned a Prindle 16 and without much headway tacking wasn't always easy. Back winding the jib helped and by far the easiest was jibing.
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hobie

This my be a stupid question but I'm still new to sailing too. If your sailing close hauled and tell someone to gybe instead of tack you mean to fall off the wind and sail almost all the way around the compass until your close hauled again on the opposite tack?
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Re: Poor tacking on a Hobie

No need to jibe unless on a downwind beat.

+1 for back-winding the jib.

Hobie 16s are very hard to tack but starting with the back-winding method you will eventuially figure out how to tack without back-winding.

The Hobie also sucks(speed wise) running DDW. Use many linked broad reaches and your VMG will go way up.
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Re: Poor tacking on a Hobie

I raced these for a time. Jibe? That's just silly. Back wind the jib? Only a little; it's generally a sign of weak technique. Keep practicing until it's solid.

* Bear off just enough to get to peak speed. Perhaps full-and-by.
* Put the helm down pretty far, but smoothly.
* Get across a little late and stay aft, almost like a roll tack. You want to get the boat heeling with the windward hull nearly out of the water. This reduces the amount of drag and lets the boat pivot on the leeward hull. Staying aft, with the bow up also helps. Don't exaggerate these motions in strong winds, or capsize is possible.
* Release the main sheet a few feet JUST as the boat gets head to wind. This will make it easier to keep turning.
* Get the jib in tight on the new tack as soon as it will fill. There is no great rush on the main.
* Continue turning past close hauled to a close reach on the new tack, and retrim as the boat accelerates. Then head up.

If you are using a tiller extension, pass this behind the boom in a vertical position as you cross; this will allow you to get back to hiking within seconds.
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Poor tacking on a Hobie

As far as my jibe suggestion goes, I don't know where the OP is sailing, but, I sail in Fisher's Island Sound. Try tacking a Hobie in light air across 2-3 knots of current.
Then again maybe it is my technique
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