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Re: Essential knots?

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Flemish Coil?

Maybe it looks snappy to you but it is neither good for the line nor the deck. Much better to properly coil the end. From the excellent Animated Knots by Grog | How to Tie Knots | Fishing, Boating, Climbing, Scouting, Search and Rescue, Household, Decorative, Rope Care,

"Pros and Cons: One of the major disadvantages is that pulling the rope out from the center introduces twists in the rope. The Flemish Flake may be appropriate on a boat's deck where there should be little dirt. It is also used for dock lines when a boat is docked for a short stay, e.g., overnight. For longer periods it is a deplorable way of treating rope: it gets trodden on, it collects dirt, and it stains the dock or deck with a spiral coil pattern of dirt."
Flake is old school. I have no problem with it, but coil is ubiquitous now. Flemish coil - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Sure, the coil will collect dirt. However, not if you go sailing often enough. It really needs to sit a long time in a dirty place to be a problem, IMHO. I've occasionally used the chain knot to allow air and water to pass through, but they simply don't look as neat.

The way I was taught a proper cleat hitch, btw. Two rivers and a bridge. Cleat hitches are very often done with the final turn around the horn being upside down. Looks bad!! I really hate seeing cleat hitches with multiple loops around each horn, totally unnecessary. Makes you look nervous.
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Re: Essential knots?

double fishermans
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Essential knots?

Check out these knots

Zeppelin bend (loop also) - probably the best bend.

Alpine butterfly loop (bend also) - best knot for making a loop in the middle of the line. The hand method is super easy. I like this as a loop over the bowline in some places because it dresses neatly.

Ashley stopper - as mentioned, the largest stopper for a given rope size.

Double overhand stopper/slip knot - clean looking stopper and a nice compact slip knot.

Adjustable grip hitch - great slide and grip hitch for making adjustable loops.

EDIT: While looking stuff up after this thread I also reminded myself of one more nice knot:

Surgeon's knot - a slight variation of the reef/square, one extra turn when you first tie it that makes it easier to tighten down and more secure.
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Check out these knots

Zeppelin bend (loop also) - probably the best bend.
That's HUNTER'S BEND.
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That's HUNTER'S BEND.
No it's not, but the zeppelin, alpine butterfly, Ashley bend and hunter bend are all related. They are interlocking overhand knots. They are all good knots but the zeppelin and alpine butterfly are easier to untie.
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Re: Essential knots?

If you know a few knots, there is no reason not to know many more knots that are simple variations or combinations.

If you know the figure-eight, then it seems easy to know the figure-eight loop, figure-eight bend, double figure-eight-loop and the one-way knot.

The bunt-line is a clove-hitch over the same line.

Double the "rabbit-hole" and you have a double-boline; triple it and you have a triple-boline; make the "rabbit hole" a clove hitch and you have a water-boline. The boline is not all that reliable when not under tension -- finish it off with a half-hitch or feed the bitter end back up through the "rabbit hole" for a Yosemite-boline.

As mentioned, the Alpine butterfly is also a bend. Also as mentioned surgeons-knot is a square-knot with a an extra turn and more secure.
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Re: Essential knots?

Top of the list: Bowline

then:
figure eight
clove hitch
sheet bend (just a variation on the bowline)
square knot
rolling hitch
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Re: Essential knots?

Does anybody use a buntline hitch? A slipped buntline hitch is my favorite knot ever.
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Re: Essential knots?

Go to; Animated Knots by Grog | How to Tie Knots | Fishing, Boating, Climbing, Scouting, Search and Rescue, Household, Decorative, Rope Care, one of the best sites with video animations of the most important knots and their use
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Re: Essential knots?

In addition to the usual suspects above, add the round-turn-and-two-halfhitches. This hitch should be used where many use the clove hitch, as the clove hitch can loosen itself if there's pull off the plane of the knot.

FWIW, the ASA 101 program includes these;
figure eight
clove hitch
sheet bend
square knot
bowline
round-turn-and-two-halfhitches
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