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I see many ads for sailing schools either offereing ASA or USS certifications....I am sure both are similar and very good, but which is more universally accepted by charters and bareboaters?

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Imho ASA seems to be an outfit made up of for-profit Sailing Schools which are banding together to create an industry standard - a commendable thing. US Sailing is a non-profit outfit whose mission is to represent and promote the sport of sailing. It also sets standards by running training courses for instructors and developing course materials for member organisations (e.g. yacht clubs). Also a commendable thing. Charterers and bareboaters are looking for clients. They likely get a better rate from their insurance carriers if you check off the box " I have taken an approved USSailing or ASA sailing course for cruising boats." They probably don''t care which.
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US Sailing is racing oriented, and is the authority on racing in the U.S. ASA is more cruising oriented, and is perhaps more aligned with the larger charter companies. Both have similar school courses, and both will teach you how to sail. ASA (like US Sailing) has instructor training standards, specially developed course materials, etc.
Bottom line: go with the school you like best- right price, right place, right people.
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I think that it is a mistake to say that US Sailing is racing oriented when it comes to their courses. While it is true that US Sailing is the US''s national racing aurthority, it is a much broader oriented organization than that. The sailing courses were developed as part of US Sailings ''outreach'' program which is intended to increase the number of people who has experienced and enjoy sailing. It is my understanding that the US Sailing courses are a little more detail oriented rather than being more racing oriented.

As you note, the ASA courses were developed in conjunction with the charter companies and were intended to provide the minimum threshold of knowledge required to safely charter a boat. I would not say that the courses are more cruising oriented, just reportedly a little more superficial, at least as I have heard back from people who have taken similar courses with both.

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It''s clear Jeff has experience with and a preference for US Sailing, but lacks firsthand knowledge of ASA programs. Having been a certified instructor under both systems, I would not be so quick to knock ASA. It has as much detail and thoroughness as US Sailing, and was not developed by the charter companies nor as a minimum threshhold. Gary Jobson was a primary developer of the texts, and years later the charter companies later decided to align with ASA as a choice over US Sailing. Having said all that, there are some US Sailing schools still listed as preferred schools by SunSail, simply because they responded first when Sunsail first developed their affiliations.

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Hi Bob,

Thanks for the history of the ASA certification. My staement was only agreeing with your assertion that the ASA courses are aligned with the larger charter companies. The question about the ASA vs US Sailing Course comes up a lot on BB''s so I began looking for people who had taken similar courses in both programs. Within the group that I talked to, there seemed to be a general concensus that the US Sailing Courses are more detailed oriented. I am not sure that I knocked one course over the other as much as describing the differences as seen from a group of student''s perspective. For some more detail is a good thing but for others a simplier course is preferable.

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