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This mucking about in boats is very taxing, no wonder my brain hurts. Silly me I thought it was easy and straight forward.

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This mucking about in boats is very taxing, no wonder my brain hurts. Silly me I thought it was easy and straight forward.
And here I thought you figured it all out on your epic journey from Calfornia back to Oz.

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This mucking about in boats is very taxing, no wonder my brain hurts. Silly me I thought it was easy and straight forward.
So does this mean you have a brain with more than one electron?!?!?!?! That is all I have, thinking........OUCH!!!.....dang nabbit,need to not do that......ie thinking.......OUCHIE!!!!.......oh my poor aching head.......that pulls that poor electron too much.......need to quit doing that thinking........OUCH!............grrrrrrrrr....... ...


Anyway, if you can find a May? might have been april issue of Pacific Yachting, pulled it out of the mailbox the other day.....there was an interesting viewpoint on types of rode. It started with something to the effect, boater do not talk about Religion, income and anchors! Since Rode was not mentioned, the author would talk about types and styles.

It was pointed out, that if in shallower waters, ie under about 50', a boat length or two of chain with a rope rode might very well be the better option than all chain! Over 50', all chain could be better/make more sense. None the less, it had many things to toy with when it comes to choosing what type of ground tackle to use etc. The big thing seems to be, can you keep the angle from the ground to rode, be it chain or rope, as low as possible. So if using a 4-1 all chain in 20' of water was the example, when the wind piped up to 35 knots, the all chain vs a chain/rope setup with 7-1 would start to drag, as this angle tween the chain the ground would be too great for the anchor. Where as the 7-1 setup would not drag. In deeper waters, the chain would create enough drag holding the bow down etc, that it would not potentially drag with 4-1 vs the 7-1 chain/rope setup.

As pointed out also, an all chain rode could be too heavy for some setups. Also go with G7 vs G4 or g3 where possible, as you could go a size smaller, be lighter etc too. One couldlose over 300-400 lbs going with a chain/rope rode vs an all chain. ALong with hoisting the anchor setup in many cases, vs "HAVING" to use a windlass.

Not saying which is right or wrong, both options work, both have plus and minus's about them. Not sure an all chain on the OPs Ranger 23 would be a smart option. But a chain in the 20-30' range, reasonably big anchor and some 3 strand in the 200-300' range, would work well around the salish sea quite well.

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Re: Anchoring with changing tides and wind

My most notable whoda thunkit happened in False Creek ,Vancouver .Mud bottom ,lots of scope half inch chain and 80 lb fisherman hook, days of wind change 180 degrees laid the scope back and forth over the anchor and tide dropped a loop over the cross bar and picked it all up on the rising tide. Coast guard found me by the Granville bridge alerted by a friendly passing tug and barge.We all had a good laugh when we got the tight ball of 300 lbs plus mud to the bow roller. I don't know what the moral of this is but Murphy lives.
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Re: Anchoring with changing tides and wind

Yeah anchoring is a bit difficult. I am swinging in circles like I thought I would but I've got a 22 pound Bruce, 20-25 feet of chain a good shackle and nice new rope. 180 feet. So with the chain 200 feet total. It's really holding well so far.

The hardest part is getting my boat to point the way I want it to. When i get ready to set. Say I want to face north. Well by the time I am at tr bow I very like could have swung any direction. Is there anything I can do to keep control over the direction I set?

So I have the engine going. Face north. Chain is laid out already on deck. If there is win to blow me back I let it out slowly until the desired scope is out. Then I motor back on it. But if there isn't wind an there often isn't, or if the current wants me to face a different direction. Then I have more trouble and sometimes let out the anchor just till I can feel it touch. The. I run back and lash the tiller and put it in slow reverse. Then back to the bow and let it out. But it wanders. My boats loves no do its own thing.
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Anchoring is like ....... everybody has a least one. Here are a few of my ideas on Ground Tackle & How to Use it.

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Thanks for all the great info folks! This is new for me too, and feeling a lot better now that I've read your thoughts.
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Re: Anchoring with changing tides and wind

Do you have the ability to let the line out from the cockpit, as you control the motor? Might be abetter option that trying to run forward, then aft, forward, and aft again hoping you can keep control.

I'll be in PT tomorrow, not that I can look for you any more!

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Re: Anchoring with changing tides and wind

I headed to port townsend as we speak. The wind is really light and I've been watching smith island for what seems like forever

I did that technique for the first time last night in Friday harbor. I let the anchor out to just touch and had the motor in neutral. I let loose some line into my hand and keeping tension so the chain didn't pile up I walked back to the cockpit and reversed while I let the line through my hand and it did stay over the bow roller. This is my new method. Loved it. Got a really good set.
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