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Re: Downside of living aboard

This is a great thread for someone new to the forum, and as a aspiring live-aboarder.

My wife and I are currently on a 5 year(ish) plan to start or long-term LA cruising.

She starts her sailing lessons in May
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Re: Downside of living aboard

Seems there's two types of liveaboards being discussed:

- ones who are tied to the dock forever, never use for its intended purpose and know little about a boat.
- ones like CruisingDad and Wingnwing who liveabord but use their boats for its intended purpose and are very knowledgeable.

I think I will be the later

I was talking with a member at our club who is a liveaboard...we were discussing our recent electric bills due to the extreme cold weather we've had in Maryland this winter. His electric bill was more than my gas & electric bill combined and my house must be 20 times the sq ft. According to him, this includes a carpet on the sole and some insulation here and there, plus only keeping the cabin in the low 60 high 50 F. Sounds like a downside to side to living aboard in a cold climate to me!? Heading South is the correct answer to this problem

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Seems there's two types of liveaboards being discussed:

- ones who are tied to the dock forever, never use for its intended purpose and know little about a boat.
- ones like CruisingDad and Wingnwing who liveabord but use their boats for its intended purpose and are very knowledgeable.

I think I will be the later

I was talking with a member at our club who is a liveaboard...we were discussing our recent electric bills due to the extreme cold weather we've had in Maryland this winter. His electric bill was more than my gas & electric bill combined and my house must be 20 times the sq ft. According to him, this includes a carpet on the sole and some insulation here and there, plus only keeping the cabin in the low 60 high 50 F. Sounds like a downside to side to living aboard in a cold climate to me!? Heading South is the correct answer to this problem
Two points to add.:

There is a third LA type. It is a hybrid of type 1 and 2. Those who are living aboard preparing to leave and cruising weekends. We are at year 4 of our 5 year plan and will leave a year early when we toss off the lines in May.

In Maine our total heating costs are about $1000 for diesel fuel. Electric is another $400 for Oct-April. Electric is free the remainder of the year. This is much less than I ever paid for our 2,200 sq. ft. home. Our boat is 40ft. and we keep the heat around 65 because that is comfortable for us. 70 is too warm.

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There are plenty of knowledgable sailors living aboard and not cruising. I am one and my neighbors are more knowledgable and experienced than I am. Also, I heat with electricity and am on a set monthly fee. There are no meters on the docks and I use a lot of power running 3 space heaters full time.
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I have been living aboard my 1972 Contest 33 for two years now. I bought my boat for a low price and it needed a lot of work. I have replaced chain plates, painted the decks and added non skid, replaced the life lines, (learned how to splice double braid doing that) I have replaced the electrical panel and switches, I still have to fuse other wiring on board. I just got the old girl off the hard and back to the dock. I painted the bottom, replaced all sea cocks, replaced a thru hull, removed the engine that was seized up, repacked the stuffing box,replaced the old prop with a 3 blade, stripped out the head added another bilge pump. I still have a lot of work ahead of me but I am getting there.
I don't sail because the sea cocks were so old and corroded they fell apart when I touched them with wrench. I knew they were bad but I didn't realize how bad they were. I had to sail it to where it is now. You want to see a scared stink pot owner sail your boat out of the marina past his 50ft Scarrib he just bought new. Good times indeed.
I will now put in electric drive and when that is done I will get out there and back to it. I am also on a 5 year schedule to get my contest 33 into shape where I feel safe sailing it. I did a lot to move towards that goal last week. And in a month or two I will have it out and learn how my boat performs and get that under my belt too.
I would say that if you are living the dream of others you read about when you climb on your new old boat to live you will fail. I like to tinker, I like to stay busy, I don't need a lot to be happy,I like minimal living and being off the grid survival.To me it's the challenge that makes it all worth while. Have I had a bad day on my boat sure I have. You probably heard me cuss it like the sailor I want to become.
But I get back in the game learn and ask others how to do it and fix what needs fixing. I have a job and work 6 days a week but I set achievable goals and try to do one thing a week while at the dock.
My boat like I said is not close to where I want it but now that I feel safe to sail it I can do a lot on the water while cruising. And did you really buy a boat to sit at a dock? Not me I'm going under the radar. Self sufficiency is where it's at in my mind. If you would like to see have a peak below.

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Re: Downside of living aboard

Actually, there is a fourth type of liveaboard (if there must be labels), which is what I'm doing presently.

Having spent a year refitting and preparing, I then cruised until I stopped to work for a while. Now that I've re-retired, the urge to go back out isn't as strong, especially as I essentially have to go through much of the refit process again (the time and effort I don't mind, the money though is a factor).

So, I find myself in a very good financial situation staying put for now. Thing is, everyone does what they do for a reason that is good for them. Whether it's good enough for anyone else, doesn't matter. For myself, I don't really give a hoot what anyone else does with their boat. There's more than enough people around here worrying about who motors to much, who stays at the dock too much, who doesn't trim their sails enough, etc..

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I lived aboard by boat for eleven months one time, between houses, when I had really only planned on doing it a month or two. It was in Miami and I have to admit I found myself getting to the office early, and leaving late. It was claustrophobic to me at the pier. I was glad when it was over.

But, I lived on my boat for 8 months when cruising, out on the anchor, mostly, and I wasn't even about ready to come home when it was time, financial wise, to return.

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Re: Downside of living aboard

y'all forgot the fourth grouping.. those out cruising who are forced essentially into marina living during storms and repairs....lol covers a few of us in furycameville, west coast mexico ... i know there are others in similar spots, as cruising IS repair of boat while in exotic locales....
(realizing, of course, that not all are full time cruisers with no desire to return to wherefrom they left)
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Sorry zee, I already copped 4th, you'll have to go with 5th.
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fifth isnt bad either.. gives ye lee way as most tend to incrimminate selves....rodlmffao


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