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Excellent suggestion - I'll have to give that a try
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Condensation is your biggest enemy. You can buy dehimidifier crystals for unventilated lockers, or keep the doors open all winter (depending on their style), or line them with styrofoam sheets or that silvered bubblewrap (Home Depot). You shouldn't have anything in cardboard anyway, but that goes double in winter. Open the hatch in the head after taking a shower for a minute or so, no matter how cold it is. Try to keep air moving (we run the fan from our a/c even when we're using the space heaters, just to improve airflow.

Buy yourself a pair of "Yaktrax" ice cleats from an ourdoor store like REI or EMS (approx $20) for use when the dock is icy. Buy two pairs and keep one in the car for when you get home to an icy dock, and another aboard.
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BTW, if you're really trying for passive solar, the way to go is to get the black plastic landscaping material, and put that down on the cabin top, and then tent the boat in the clear dropcloth material. The black plastic converts more of the visible light to heat, and helps transfer the heat to the boat.
What about just having a very dirty deck LOL? Hmmm, an excuse to avoid washing the boat all autumn?
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I am currently favoring a Gulfstar Sailmaster 47 (yeah I know a condo). I also like the Gulfstar 43 and 44. I like the Morgan 41 (not OI). I am going to Key West tomorrow (was supposed to go today but Ernesto took care of that) to look at a CSY 44 Walkthrough. Basically, my criteria is a center cockpit, around 42-47 ft, coastal - island crusing.
Funny coincidence - we live on as CSY, tho smaller (33') than the one you're looking at. Love it.
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I lived aboard in Boston Harbor for about five years, then moved to Winthrop for several more. The relative hardships are easy to adapt to and each person will find their own levels of 'want' and 'need'. I personally only used heat during the day and only when I was aboard. I never used heat at night - too dangerous, in my opinion - you will NEVER make it out alive if anything goes wrong. Of course, there are safe heating solutions, but they are not only inordinately expensive, but prone to failure and doubly expensive to repair. I am not grousing - I have been in Yacht Service and repair for 20 years and am just sharing experience. Warm clothes trumps $5000 espar systems every time.

Never allow a Spartan existence to affect personal hygiene. Arriving at work sparkling and fresh every morning is hugely important to your own sense of well-being. I sometimes made the mistake of foregoing the cold and miserable morning shower and paid for it by feeling like a homeless dude living under a bridge. People at work would sometimes offer me clothes and food. It seems funny now, but it wears on you.

I lived in the new (then) East Boston marina next to the old Cashman yard where the floating drydock resides. At the time, I was the ONLY liveaboard there in the winter.

I sort of cringe at some of the boats you're mentioning, but to each his own. Remember that a large boat which you only use part of, still requires all the work and expense of it's size, including heat. Better to get a smaller, better boat that will be easier to resell should this foray into the salty end sooner than you think.

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Hi Hawk,

Thanks for the info. I have been meaning to take a look at the east boston marina. I wonder if there are more liveaboard's there now? There are several at constitution marina. I am now honing in on a Gulfstar 47 Sailmaster. A great liveaboard boat. I appreciate what your saying about the size of the boat. This will be the largest I have owned so far the last one being a Tayana 37. I consider that boat too small for dockside liveaboard. Heating a boat of this size is a factor for sure. It has reverse cycle marine air but I think the water would be too cold for this to work. In fact, I am guessing it would destroy the system. A diesel heater attached to the bulkhead offers some promise. I don't know how dangerous they are and would like to hear from those with experience.

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Hawk: The Espar Heater Cranks and is very safe. I am not sure why you would think it is not safe. Particularly if you have a Carbon Monoxide Tester in the Cabin. I have a diesel fired Espar blower and it warms the Cabin beautifully. I am seriously considering buying a small dehumidifier for the Cabin just to get rid of moisture in the air.
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I spent parts of three winters living aboard my boat in Mystic, CT. Best thing I did was to get a heavy canvas cover and pipe-frame. (Fairclough sailmakers will create one for your boat - custom fit around the rig). Cover was great, but a bit claustrophobic. Sew in some windows to let the sun and view in.

A word of caution: be careful about using electric space-heaters while you're not on the boat. A friend had a boat fire when one of the ceramic heaters failed and caught on fire. I had good luck with the oil-filled radiant heaters (no fan motor to fail).

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Howdy,
I'm currently heading toward my first winter at Constitution. I bought my boat (34' O'day) last spring and have had a fantastic time at the marina and living aboard in general. I can assure you that the marina is excellent -- at least with all the summer staff. I'm afraid I can't give you much advice about living aboard in the winter because I'm reading your post in hopes of learn the same. My plan is to buy and install an espar or webasto diesel heating system -- many people here though make due with just electric heaters, but I've heard that this costs between 200-300/mo for a 38 footer. It sounds like the espar / webasto will cost in the neighborhood of $3000 for a 34' boat. A friend of mine that will be staying here this winter just bought a floor mount dickensen alaska diesel heater that he bought for about $500. He's convinced thats all he'll need. I'd go that route for price/simplicity except that I have no available floor space.

If you end up at Constitution, say hi.. I'm on Apollo.
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Hi Hawk,

Thanks for the info. I have been meaning to take a look at the east boston marina. I wonder if there are more liveaboard's there now? There are several at constitution marina. I am now honing in on a Gulfstar 47 Sailmaster. A great liveaboard boat. I appreciate what your saying about the size of the boat. This will be the largest I have owned so far the last one being a Tayana 37. I consider that boat too small for dockside liveaboard. Heating a boat of this size is a factor for sure. It has reverse cycle marine air but I think the water would be too cold for this to work. In fact, I am guessing it would destroy the system. A diesel heater attached to the bulkhead offers some promise. I don't know how dangerous they are and would like to hear from those with experience.

Gary
I bought a Gulfstar 43 MkII last July to live aboard and am currently installing two Espar Airtronic D4, 13,650 BTU/hr. diesel heaters. I think I paid $3700 for both online. If installed properly, they are very safe to heat your boat. They come standard with a rheostat but the optional thermostat may be better. If your interested, this is where I got my Espar heater.
http://www.lubricationspecialist.com...roducts_id=159
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