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01-23-2007
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Originally Posted by sneuman
ok, so what is so difficult to understand about "Best/cheapest liveaboard marina in San Francisco Bay?
that would be "liveaboard marina" and "San Francisco Bay" with a question mark. Hmmm. tough one, there.
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Almost all of the liveaboard marinas I know of are waitlisted—in many cases the wait list is years long—this seems to be especially true in communities where the real estate prices are ridiculously high. Normally , to get around the wait list, one has to purchase a boat that is already cleared for liveaboard status. My question was directed towards trying to get more information as to what liveaboard situation he was particularly discussing.
If he had a specific facility or boat in mind, then he could have said so, and clarified his question.
While the basic question of what is the best/cheapest liveaboard marina in the SFO bay area sounds relatively simple... it really isn't, since it is very unlikely that he'd even be able to get into "the best/cheapest liveaboard marina". Also, as a rule, best and cheapest are generally not the same thing.
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02-08-2007
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We keep out boat in the San Leandro Marina, less expensive especially for larger boats requiring an end tie. Negatives are Marina needs dredging. I draw 7.5 feet and have to be very aware of the tides for leaving and returning. City is balking at dredging due to expense. ANd 2nd...it's a long distance to the main part of SF Bay(southern Bay is also shallow)!
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02-09-2007
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A little less cheek
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How about South Bay, Alviso? It's been years since I've been there, but I remember that at high tide you could see some water under the hull.
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11-04-2009
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After reading the ridiculous bickering from an open ended question I am reminded of why humans take up sailing... To shatter with distance, and time, their proximity to the disappointing nature of people.
My neighbor a woody, and a very pleasant and successful legislator has kept his Tumlaren at Fortman's for years... There or Almar.
The hierarchy chisels eternal truth:
At the very bottom are power boater infants, frequently in need of diaper and tax changes.
Just above them in pure arrogant, ignorance, and stammering in swells are the grossly obese catamaran’s, tri’s etc.
Shitting just above them a poor lhasa apso breed, the definition of obnoxious... the loud fiberglass mono huller. Rootless cockiness, usually identified with all new and over stocked safety equipment. Found dramatically wanting in actual ability. Always ready to yip or yelp about nothing (a serious broken sphincter tendency), as though it provided sustenance, must fill what ever time they have in passing with their over juiced loud horn.
And sitting firmly above them a good grade of kind and pragmatic sailor; the mono huller who has his/her **** together. So much so that they are always calm inside. No matter how raging the sea or what the emergency. Is always capable of handling the situation as if in slow motion... Speaking to them except in cordial passing is impractical and rude.
Chaired above all is the Woody with a vessel in good standing. As refitting is as vital a part of the journey as sailing... These sailors transcend the highest religious experience; cutting across the water at deep harmonious acoustics and feel. Reflection of the melting work of the sharpened hand tool. Reinforcing the adventurous epic charted for centuries. No words are ever needed, and to speak to them without prior address and prompt is one of the greatest offenses mankind faces in this modern age. They ride the sea as a filled sail. Uniformly calm in taught appearance, but in exercise full with tremendous energy. Taking advantage and stretching every line, every seam, and everything violent below it, in a natural broad reach.
...Me, I ride a 73 Islander, could never leave her and her response, rescued countless amateur boaters on the bay, which you are required by RIGHTS of being on the water TO DO. And would prefer it if you stayed the **** out of the way.
Please remember, you're not near as dangerous to others and yourself (nor hesitant for that matter) if you keep to the scope of your stupidity, your stupidity, your very own and closer then your cell phone stupidity. Keep it simple stupid and please review Navigation Rules right now, just a review, right now. You will re-learn or learn guaranteed. I do.
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11-04-2009
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a little known haven for liveaboards on the bay is Pete's Harbour... it's down in redwood city, but a super place for liveaboarding.
Petes Harbor
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01-15-2010
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marin?
heya, im new but i just left a liveaboard aries 32 up in san rafael, N bay, marin county.
the liveaboard section was nicely 'dumpy' for lack of a better word. i could keep my crap car there, repair on dock, free wifi, water, ac and pumpout.
675/mo for my slip
access to the bay proper was a 45 min ordeal however.
beautiful area, a little ritzy tho in town.
the locals lookd down in the liveaboards as if its a the trailer life of marin county.
nuts to em tho,
cool people too.
'eclectic'
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oh, san rafael yatch harbor, ask for 'matt'
the boats up for auction as well i think.
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01-15-2010
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I don't discuss my member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sneuman
ok, so what is so difficult to understand about "Best/cheapest liveaboard marina in San Francisco Bay?
that would be "liveaboard marina" and "San Francisco Bay" with a question mark. Hmmm. tough one, there.
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"Best" and "Cheapest" are mutually exclusive. Either you want to live aboard in a nice marina or you want to live aboard in a cheap one. The cheap ones ain't the nice ones.
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Originally Posted by ianhlnd
How about South Bay, Alviso? It's been years since I've been there, but I remember that at high tide you could see some water under the hull.
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Jeezus, just how long since you've been to Alviso?
Ghost Marina of Alviso
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