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I don't know about sailing nav packages, but if you've seen the job that TomTom and other "car nav" packages can do on the Palm Treo and other "smartphone" devices...Hey, it fits in your pocket, runs all day on a small battery, and a 320x320 "half vga" screen isn't such a bad place to start.

Of course Treos are unsuitable for use on deck, because there's no lanyard attachment point. But a nav package that could live on a computer below, and then either "dump a session" or integrate with bluetooth to the handheld on deck...that's just GOT to be coming on the market soon. It makes entirely too much sense, and would do many jobs very nicely.
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But a nav package that could live on a computer below, and then either "dump a session" or integrate with bluetooth to the handheld on deck...that's just GOT to be coming on the market soon. It makes entirely too much sense, and would do many jobs very nicely.
I can't argue with that, which is why I'm not a zealot for my own ideas. If I leave for bluewater cruising in mid-'09, I should make pretty well all my electronics purchases and decisions by, say, March '09. The time between then and now is the time to test-bed the cheap 'n' cheerful stuff, like using existing nav freeware on already amortized laptops in fresh water.

It's a good time to field test stuff like armatures, screen pivots and various connections and PSes for durability. I can find plenty of rough water of limited duration on Lake Ontario, if I go looking for it. Especially in spring and fall.
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I don't know about sailing nav packages, but if you've seen the job that TomTom and other "car nav" packages can do on the Palm Treo and other "smartphone" devices...Hey, it fits in your pocket, runs all day on a small battery, and a 320x320 "half vga" screen isn't such a bad place to start.

Of course Treos are unsuitable for use on deck, because there's no lanyard attachment point. But a nav package that could live on a computer below, and then either "dump a session" or integrate with bluetooth to the handheld on deck...that's just GOT to be coming on the market soon. It makes entirely too much sense, and would do many jobs very nicely.
This is basically already possible. Look at Fugawi Global Navigator... it has PDA versions for both WinCE and Palm devices. Also, you could do something similar with almost any PDA if you used it to remotely control the PC via something like VNC.

The only problems I have with the PDAs are screen size, robustness and battery life. The 3" diagonal screen is a bit tough to work with, most are allergic to water and salt-laden air and the battery life is only so-so with them, especially if their wireless radio for either BlueTooth or WiFi is going full tilt.
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"Also, you could do something similar with almost any PDA if you used it to remotely control the PC via something like VNC." Good point, I think there is bluetooth remote control software for the Palms now to control PC's. Or maybe, that needs the internet connection, for now.

Battery life...yeah, limited, but I'm thinking more along the lines of "check the charts, go back to piloting" so it could sleep for 50 minutes or more on every hour. Waterproof? Oh heck, these things fit in ziplock bags if you don't want to buy an EWA pouch of something better.

Me, I just know that every time I go below, there's some kinda problem on deck. Giant Kraken, Narwhal, collision with aliens...Poseidon has made it clear that I'm supposed to Stay On Deck and "do not stand in front of the white line while bus is in motion" so who am I to argue with that?

Best of all, the really really tiny computers KNOW how easily you can chuck 'em overboard, so they are really insecure and they'll do anything to make sure they can crawl back in your pocket. Not smug like the big balky ones that think they run the show.
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My D505 has expereinced salt water, the power was off and I imiediatly took it appart and cleaned it, but It still has been on a salt water boat for more than a year.
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What happens over time to an ordinary Dell laptop if it's used and stored below decks?
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If you are surrounded by, or even visited by, friends or crew who know and love you? It gets hauled away and burned, and then they take birch branches and whip your knuckles every time you try to call Dell to get a new one.
Try this, if you have the Dell extra cost "four years everything including drop and spill proof" warranty extension. Throw it overboard, haul it up, have them come and replace it. Repeat five times.

(Sorry, Dell have just spent too much effort EARNING my love.)

Hey, they're in the commodity goods business. Their laptops work, or not, about as well as any other consumer electronic goods. Clock radios, VCRs, Dell laptops...all the same.
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Hello, Hellosailor,
It was the marine environment angle to this that I was wondering about, you silly goose.
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Itronix laptop

You can buy used Itronix 6250's on ebay pretty cheap. Either get a 266 or 300 mhz. They usually come with 128meg ram and a 6 gig hd. These things are the original rugged laptops. I've hooked my garmin gps to it and the software shows where the little boat is. The processor is plenty fast enough for nav software.
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