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We moved aboard our 42 about 4 years ago..(1983-First 42) and lovin every minute of it. Because of the strict "Liveaboard" rules in California, we move around alot, three months here, four mounths there, but with the hundreds of marinas, in San Francisco and the Delta, we could visit them all and it would take years, although, we've found a half dozen or so that appeal to our needs and that are clean and neet. And after the first couple years, certin marinas expect us back each time of the year...
We've solved the liveaboard problem (marina wise) and change our back yard from time to time...
We've been preeping the boat for our five year trip out so alot of work has been going on, inside the boat but with the moving around every 3 or 4 months. seem no one has noticed or really dosent mind..
And by moving around, the marina knows we're not going to settle in and start collecting Crap.
Its a great way to be a liveaboard and still be part of the cruising community........ We're headed for mexico in a month or so......
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What are these strict California "Liveaboard rules? Are they state mandates? Liveaboard rules are few in Florida, but that doesn't mean that liveaboard slips abound. We have been at marinas that don't allow personal materials on the dock; is this the "crap collection" you spoke of? We bought our first liveaboard boat in 1971 and for twenty of these liveaboard years (1982 to 2002) we were at the same marina, but the only thing ashore was our car in the parking lot. I don't understand why you must keep moving in California,-let us know. One common liveaboard rule in much of South Florida is a pump out attachemnt hose must remain attached while the boat is at the dock.
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Awhile back, the state adopted a new ruling that only 5% of marina boats could be liveaboards, but for some reason, some marinas were granfathered into an ordenance that would not put any limmit on them.
Along with this was something to the effect that Transiant boats or cruisers could live aboard because they were passing through, but only for a term of 90 days..
I have seen some marinas that the whole marina was liveaboard, but those are the older marinas and uasally run down and attracking a seedy sort of people.
For some reason, my wife would rather use the marina shower, instead of the boats and shes pretty picky, so the places we stay, are more to an upper scale marina.
I've also seen something new poping up in the San Francisco area.. Some of the marinas dont allow any liveaboards. The gates are electronic key pad entry and are shut off from Monday night until Thursday morning. The marina is closed down for two days per week except for a security service.
This way, they have cut off any overtime for employees and reduced work to a five day week... Their explaniation is that most boats are only used on weekends and if you dont like it, you can move on... and the marina is full.
Others in the area just dont allow any more then the triditional 3 day stay per week rule...no exceptions..
So by moving around, 3 to 4 months at a time, we're cruisers, and fit into the ruling... And stay at the better marinas.. Its actually cheeper as theres no electric bill in the temp. slips and I pay for three months ahead when I go in so I have a little more to deal with...
A good example is when I pulled into this place, My 42 foot was going to be $420.00 a month, when I opened my wallet, I asked if they would take $1100.00 for three months.. he accepted and I saved afew bucks.
"CRAP COLECTION" You've got to admit that most people collect stuff. Even myself, and I've seen liveaboards that you could hardley see the boat.
It starts on the boat and slowly moves to the dock and pretty soon, a plant or two is added in around the dockbox, your dock box now has shelves in it and you've settled in to stay....... Most upper end marinas I've see, frown in this type of homesteading..........
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Awhile back, the state adopted a new ruling that only 5% of marina boats could be liveaboards, but for some reason, some marinas were granfathered into an ordenance that would not put any limmit on them.
Along with this was something to the effect that Transiant boats or cruisers could live aboard because they were passing through, but only for a term of 90 days..
I have seen some marinas that the whole marina was liveaboard, but those are the older marinas and uasally run down and attracking a seedy sort of people.
For some reason, my wife would rather use the marina shower, instead of the boats and shes pretty picky, so the places we stay, are more to an upper scale marina.
I've also seen something new poping up in the San Francisco area.. Some of the marinas dont allow any liveaboards. The gates are electronic key pad entry and are shut off from Monday night until Thursday morning. The marina is closed down for two days per week except for a security service.
This way, they have cut off any overtime for employees and reduced work to a five day week... Their explaniation is that most boats are only used on weekends and if you dont like it, you can move on... and the marina is full.
Others in the area just dont allow any more then the triditional 3 day stay per week rule...no exceptions..
So by moving around, 3 to 4 months at a time, we're cruisers, and fit into the ruling... And stay at the better marinas.. Its actually cheeper as theres no electric bill in the temp. slips and I pay for three months ahead when I go in so I have a little more to deal with...
A good example is when I pulled into this place, My 42 foot was going to be $420.00 a month, when I opened my wallet, I asked if they would take $1100.00 for three months.. he accepted and I saved afew bucks.
"CRAP COLECTION" You've got to admit that most people collect stuff. Even myself, and I've seen liveaboards that you could hardley see the boat.
It starts on the boat and slowly moves to the dock and pretty soon, a plant or two is added in around the dockbox, your dock box now has shelves in it and you've settled in to stay....... Most upper end marinas I've see, frown in this type of homesteading..........
HEHEHEHE! I have to laugh about that crap collection. Isn't that the truth. You think you have it bad, try taking two kids and two dogs with you!!!

Glad you are enjoying it!! Stick around.

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