Help confirming boat choice - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Out There > Cruising & Liveaboard Forum > Living Aboard
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 11-04-2007
daddyhobbit's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sapphire Beach Marina Saint Thomas VI
Posts: 35
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
daddyhobbit is on a distinguished road
Help confirming boat choice

Ok my wife says HMM we should buy a bigger boat and live abord. I am all for it. However, now comes the question what size boat and what kind? I am thinking a pilot house in the 40-50 foot range. I worry that the bigger we go the harder it will be to maintiain and sail for two people. Any thoughts? We have looked at a young sun 43 in Virginia and a Hudson Force 50 on the west coast. The force 50 is a little intimidating to cruise with only two people, however, it would be like not leaving the house.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 11-04-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
Might want to look at a smaller catamaran. Many smaller catamarans, like the Gemini 105, Iroquois, MaineCat30, TomCat30, and such are going to provide almost as much space as a 40-50' monohull, yet be easier to sail and maintain. Just a thought.

It would help if you said where you plan on sailing the boat, and what kind of sailing you plan on doing. Also, are you going to be living aboard it?
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.

Last edited by sailingdog; 11-04-2007 at 11:03 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 11-04-2007
Valiente's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,491
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Valiente has a spectacular aura about Valiente has a spectacular aura about
Once again, this is a question with insufficient background information. If you are just looking for something to daysail off a fixed dock, get a trawler. If you intend to live aboard while anchoring in a Pacific atoll 500 miles from fuel, you might get an entirely different boat than if you are island-hopping in the Leewards.

In some circumstances, a cat is a great choice, and certainly better than a monohull. But I personally consider those circumstances relatively limited, unless you are considering the sort of "oceanic" cats the South Africans and to a lesser extent the French are building.

Tell us how you intend to *use* the boat, today and five years down the road, and we are generally happy to advise. I own a steel pilothouse, but it's not for the layout, and that pilothouse gets extremely toasty in the summer at dock, but then I don't anticipate being at dock, if you follow.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 11-04-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
Those oceanic cats are really pricey...

Never thought of your boat as a floating dutch oven...but I guess it kind of is, with the greenhouse effect from the pilothouse windows.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Valiente View Post
Once again, this is a question with insufficient background information. If you are just looking for something to daysail off a fixed dock, get a trawler. If you intend to live aboard while anchoring in a Pacific atoll 500 miles from fuel, you might get an entirely different boat than if you are island-hopping in the Leewards.

In some circumstances, a cat is a great choice, and certainly better than a monohull. But I personally consider those circumstances relatively limited, unless you are considering the sort of "oceanic" cats the South Africans and to a lesser extent the French are building.

Tell us how you intend to *use* the boat, today and five years down the road, and we are generally happy to advise. I own a steel pilothouse, but it's not for the layout, and that pilothouse gets extremely toasty in the summer at dock, but then I don't anticipate being at dock, if you follow.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 11-04-2007
AjariBonten's Avatar
Aquaholic
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Fingerlakes & Great Lakes New York
Posts: 1,139
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
AjariBonten is on a distinguished road
I like water, what should I buy?

Just ribbing you, hobbit.....

Welcome aboard, stick around and read lots. Post too, you'll soon learn a lot and refine your question about 200 times before answering it yourself.....

So are you planning on punting the Brandywine, or setting off West from the Havens ....
__________________
I got an Old Fat Boat
She's Slow But Handsome
Hard In The Chine, but Soft In The Transom
I Love Her Well, And She Must Love Me
But I think It's Only For My Money
.
..... Gordon Bok
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 11-10-2007
Shack's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Annapolis
Posts: 199
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Shack is on a distinguished road
40' Pilot House

Mr. Froto,
I just moved aboard a 43' pilot house. We decided that the ratio of sailing to living was going to be bigger on the "living" aspect than on the sailing. That guided our choice. You may wish to examine your prefered boats under a similalr analysis.

There are many 40' boats that are designed for a crew of two to handle. Get an auto-pilot, and single handing is very feasible. Two people handled our boat in heavier seas and moderate winds without complication.

Note: the pilot house serves as an excellent "extra room" when in port and as a foul weather helm when under-way.

Good luck & fair winds...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 11-11-2007
Valiente's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,491
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Valiente has a spectacular aura about Valiente has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
Those oceanic cats are really pricey...

Never thought of your boat as a floating dutch oven...but I guess it kind of is, with the greenhouse effect from the pilothouse windows.
I have a number of hatches that help, and the saloon and the aft cabin stay cool...but it's weird at dock when the A/C is keeping fore and aft chilly and having very little effect on the pilothouse itself.

I have screens, but I need to screw in snaps for them, particularly on the west side. I'm going to perhaps insulate the roof more, as well. When I'm sailing, it's fine, and the engine doesn't heat it up at all...it's just the sun.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 11-11-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
Valiente-

What did you expect from sailing in a big dutch oven with a mast.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Modern Hull forms and Motion Comfort Jeff_H Sailboat Design and Construction 193 10-31-2013 10:29 AM
Naming and Renaming Your Boat Sue & Larry Cruising Articles 0 12-15-2003 08:00 PM
Rust Never Sleeps John Kretschmer Buying a Boat Articles 0 02-27-2003 08:00 PM
Performing in Light Air Brian Hancock Learning to Sail Articles 0 01-15-2003 08:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:53 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.