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There's some pretty places in GA. This change is long overdue! We'd heard rumors about this while we were passing through in Nov. - thanx for posting the link.
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The DNR has passed a new law on liveaboards in Georgia.

As of January 1, 2012, if you wish to stay aboard your boat in a marina with sewage pump out facilities for longer than 30 days, you may apply for an extension beyond the 30 days. The notice doesn’t seem to have any limit on the length of time you can stay aboard, just the regulations relating to the boat and also to the marina – you have to have a mechanism to secure your holding tank, the marina has to have adequate pump-out facilities, etc.

You can read more information at Georgia Liveaboards - Find the best marina to dock your boat
To me it sounds like there is way to much discretion for the commissioner. He does not have to give any permits out so I would consider this a possible improvement, but not a victory. Here are the offending portions:

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8. The applicant states the reasons for requesting the extension and the period of time for which the extension is requested.
9. The Commissioner, in his or her sole discretion, may grant or deny any request for an extension of time to occupy a live-aboard.
10. The Commissioner, in his or her sole discretion, may consider requests for extensions that do not meet this Rule if the applicant shows extraordinary and extenuating circumstances.
So he does not have to accept the "reasons" he also does not have to give a permit for any reason he desires. Seems like the commissioner has a lot of power over someones life, if they choose to live aboard in GA. Seems to be open to a lot of abuse. Glad I live in New York!
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Re: Georgia Livaboards Org

Good News!
The State of Georgia has just modified the Live-Aboard rule so that it will be legal and practical to say on board your boat in Georgia for more than 30 days. A rule change will allow boaters to fill out a simple form to receive permission to be onboard for up to one year in Georgia so long as the boat is docked at a marina that meets the state’s minimum requirements for pump-out facilities. Isle of Hope Marina and just a couple of other marinas currently meet those standards, but I expect that other marinas will upgrade their facilities to take advantage of this rule change. I am heading a committee that will be working with the DNR to finalize the application form in the next few weeks. The rule change will be effective January 1, 2012 . i just found this on the web. it doese not mean that local DNR will stop hurassing. i am interested in attending your meeting this month, if you could email me the time and place. my email address is byrdric16@comcast.net i myself am moving back to the water aand plan to spend 4-6 months in Ga. there are other states trying to enforce such laws but in some cases the federal and corp of engineers have overruled. look forward to attending your meeting
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Re: Georgia Livaboards Org

Someone asked how this law became ... after chatting with the DNR boys at brunswick here is the answer to that question ... Back when the freeway was being put in ... i would assume the 60's or 70's they sold the barges to a lot of different people that were used to transport equip and parts ... so hence a lot of people decided to put shacks and such on the barges and take up residence ... the pollution on the river areas, I think the Satilla was mentioned, got so bad that this is how the government took action.....
they not only targeted the people on the barges but also all the stilt houses along the rivers to deal with the dumping of untreated sewage in the waterways .... or at least this is what I found out so far.
As to the public opinion poll ... it does not matter what you feel ... this is a bad law and the state looses money all the time because of it, but you have to realize that you are not dealing with people that are very intelligent with the boaters needs ... you can not fight city hall is a old saying that comes to mind, everyone knows it very well, but did you ever read the next passage after that, " but you can sure doo doo on the the doorstep" ...
target the city and state officials and you may get something changed .... the bit with you need to apply or a permit now that is just plain stupid, and we thought Florida was getting bad, some of it is rubbing off on Georgia now .... time to find a place with less B.S. .... wish me luck, I will probaly need it!!!!!
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Re: Georgia Livaboards Org

It is a bummer that GA has come to enforceing the outdated statue ... but doo doo does happen ... so it is time to be creative, on the south end of the state (FL/GA) we just anchor in the florida side of the river ... try doing the same there scince the savannah river is the dividing line ... then you have a good court case of jurisdiction if they get to pushy ... just a thought
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