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I don't own a Cat... I have a boat with training hulls... a trimaran. Heating a trimaran is much simpler generally, since the interior is far smaller, as is the exposed exterior surface.

Clear or black shrink wrap can be a pretty good way to add heat to the boat. One of my friends did clear shrink wrap with black cloth laid down on the deck...and it adds a fair amount of heat and insulation—so it is definitely something to consider.

A lot of marinas don't allow winter liveaboards, so if you don't have slip with permission to liveaboard yet, get it first.

I wouldn't recommend using a propane heater that isn't vented. The amount of moisture it can introduce to the cabin is phenomenal and will leave a lot of things soaked as it condenses out against the ports, hull interior and such. Doing that is a good way to get a moldy/mildewed boat.

You need to heat the cabin at least to some degree. A cabin that is below 55-60˚ is risking hypothermia IMHO, even if you're bundled up. An electric blanket is one good way to reduce the need to heat so much at night, but you'd want the head at least heated to a reasonable temperature, since using it late at night when it is cold is not fun or safe.

Shrink film on the hatches can help some...but it is far better to add more insulation than that if you can. Don't forget that you really do need to keep the boat fairly well ventilated, even in the depth of winter as well. Any lockers should have vents or screens in the doors.

Chuckles—

Not everyone hauls out for the winter. Webb Chiles and his wife lived aboard at Constitution Marina for several years, prior to buying, then selling their Charlestown condo. Now they're living in Chicago, but Hawke is down in NZ.

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Looking at Constitution Marina as the winter choice need to call to see if they will allow a cat she Prouts have a 16 beam which isn't huge lots of power boats wider than that there. We were looking at some of the inner bay moorings for May to Oct it can be quiet chilli in New England for May end of Sep and Oct so we might need a small heating source independent of shore power to keep the chill down, but I would imagine the electric heaters would do in winter wish I had a reference point on the elctric costs
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LOL....You're a bad, bad man... funny but I think you've lost it... BTW, is that a Burberry cat coat??

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LOL....You're a bad, bad man... funny but I think you've lost it... BTW, is that a Burberry cat coat??
yes it is a Burberry, then again the question was how to keep warm in New England. But, no self respecting cat would be caught with out it's coach hand bag also.
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Cats do fine in barns at -30F.
Just make sure they have food and water they dont have to chip the ice off of.And a warm blanket or hay bale to burrow into.
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Hello my wife and I are considering the possibility of living aboard in Mass. Both of us are quiet partial to cats I'm really looking at the Prout SnowGoose Elites at this point but am still very open to any ideas.
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I am not sure what Cat you have looked at and it does matter. A newer cruising cat will probably have a balsa or foam core between you and the water as you have already heard. Many of the newer boats 43 feet and larger have forced air heat or A/C. It can also be added or rigged at a price.

The real issue is what you can afford and why you want to do it, not whether you can do it. Time to go cruise the marinas and talk to the other live-aboards. See if their lifestyle really fits yours. The reason you don't see cats there is simple. There aren't that many cats relative to monos to begin with, (although the number of cats is growing at a startling rate). Most of the cruising, blue water cats are in the cruising latitudes, (not that Norway, Maine, and Iceland aren't great to cruise, but how many people really do?) So, decide what you are all about and then explain how living aboard a cat fits.
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Cats do fine in barns at -30F.
Just make sure they have food and water they dont have to chip the ice off of.And a warm blanket or hay bale to burrow into.
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Home Depot sells a 1500 BTU heater that screws directly to the outlet on a two pound LPG bottle. Heats the boat just fine. Bigger ones are available, the 1500 heats my 400 or so square feet nicely, I even use it to warm my garage . That's realtivily cheap heat and very usable on a catamaran because we don't have to worry about knocking it about when heeling or rocking.
Those same heaters also work just fine on a regular sized gas bottle.
Really bad idea. First they use an relatively unprotected open "infrared" flame, and will easily catch anything near it on fire. Second is they give off a ton of CO and carbon monoxide is very dangerous. That is why they say on the box not to use in enclosed spaces. I imagine a garage would be ok as they are not well sealed, but a boat with all the hatches closed and shrink wrap on it would not be a good idea. Sure they make moisture and make it uncomfortable, but more importantly they kill you!

I have one that puts out 50,000 BTU for my garage (a very drafty and un-insulated 3 ˝ car detached garage) and it will give me a head ach if I do not leave the garage door open a bit. I am sure they put out at least 15,000 BTU at least as 1,500 would be less than a hair dryer.

Stick to electric, or if you must use combustion make sure it is properly vented. I once saw an old house boat that had a big 4 foot high pot bellied stove in the salon. Got the boat nice and toasty. But every one in the harbor hated it because it dumped soot all over the other boats.
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