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TiarasWake,
Pictures of the transom might be a good idea. There are some clever, practical and generous people on here. It does sound like you have determined already that the transom and therefore the boat are irretrievable, but could there be a chance??
If you have already put what little money you have into this vessel, surely if there was any chance of saving it, it would be preferable to starting over again with another boat??
Especially given that as Sway suggests with all probability any 'new' vessel that comes to you for free, is likely to be in perhaps as great or worse condition.
These are just some thoughts. So please some photos, and details.....what the specifics of the problem are......how it has been diagnosed and by whom......What do you have to lose??
By the way, threads on Sailnet often degenerate into these philosophical and quite often nonsensical discussions, we may offer up honest opinion but please don't think anyone here intends to be insensitive or wishes you or your family ill, ultimately every situation is different and what is right for you and your family is a decision only you can make.
Like I said to you way up in the third post of this thread, my thoughts are with your and your family and I hope you do find a solution.
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living on water is not GPS units and Santana DVX Champagne all day every day.
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Tager's right you morons. I missed my bottle of DVX last Thursday because I had to dive for my Garmin. (It fell off my chunk of foam, while I was pouring another round of bubbles for my pals. It's hard to balance eight people on that thing AND pop corks!)
Seriously, you dudes need to back off Tiara. She's asking for a boat. Nothing wrong with that. And she says - FROM HER EXPERIENCE - that it's cheaper than a squat. So if you don't have an extra boat to throw into the kitty and/or if you don't have the multi-family housing price index for her specific zip code to prove your speculative blather - then give the lady some air.
Jeez. Looking for a miracle - and getting an overly pious smackdown instead. Same-ol'.
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Smack,
I don't see anyone here having a go at Tiara........The point being made is that a new boat may not do the trick for her thats all.....plus boats just don't fall out of the sky, or if they do generally you duck, cause it usually means they are money sucking hunks of shite.
Seriously Smack you know better than any that the general flavour of this place is to be conservative and cautious.....
Now if you wanna be the Smacked-knight in shining armor we could just send her the Smacktanic as her miracle??
Failing that what say you about getting behind my idea of getting some smart shipwrightly folk here to have a look and see if we can't help her out with her existing boat?? If there was any chance, Wouldn't that be a miracle that we as a community might be able to actually get behind, and via the power of the internet offer some good practical solutions??
Not to presume, but perhaps even some of us who live closer than 8000 miles could hop on a piece of foam, and head on over and lend a hand??
If repairs are too expensive.........what if we could help out by finding some donateable skilled labour??
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Smack,
I don't see anyone here having a go at Tiara........The point being made is that a new boat may not do the trick for her thats all.....plus boats just don't fall out of the sky, or if they do generally you duck, cause it usually means they are money sucking hunks of shite.
Seriously Smack you know better than any that the general flavour of this place is to be conservative and cautious.....
Now if you wanna be the Smacked-knight in shining armor we could just send her the Smacktanic as her miracle??
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You're assuming there is a Smacktanic...which has never been proven.
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Failing that what say you about getting behind my idea of getting some smart shipwrightly folk here to have a look and see if we can't help her out with her existing boat?? If there was any chance, Wouldn't that be a miracle that we as a community might be able to actually get behind, and via the power of the internet offer some good practical solutions??
Not to presume, but perhaps even some of us who live closer than 8000 miles could hop on a piece of foam, and head on over and lend a hand??
If repairs are too expensive.........what if we could help out by finding some donateable skilled labour??
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Good suggestions Chall.
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Blow it out 'yer ass, Smacky. You ain't laid up so much as an inch of fiberglas in your life, so what are you offerin' other than your usual self-appointed guardianship of the weak, the oppressed, and those whom take internet legal advise seriously. You're heading for the east coast; load up some epoxy, glas, and cash so you can actually do something...otherwise, shut your pie hole.
Back to serious suggestions...
Fox News is reporting that FEMA is going to be unloading various sized trailers for as low as $1-5. It's not on-line yet, but has been anticipated for some time. It's meant opposition by sellers of new trailers, opposition that has now apparently been overcome, and so there's about to be a flood of cheap housing units available.
Obama Watch: FEMA Trailers for Sale: $5 or $1
http://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/gsaauctions/
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Wow.. this is one tough group with a few exceptions.
Any progress with the 1 offer of a boat and do you have access of camera to take photos of transom ?
fairwinds, Mum
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Wow.. this is one tough group with a few exceptions.
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Yes, Sailnet has always been really short on Oprah and Dr. Phil type moments where everyone comes together and thinks happy thoughts.
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Heh-heh, yeah Chall - the whole "community helping her with her problem" thing has gone just swimmingly hasn't it? My bad.
Look - it's simple: What did she ask for? A free boat.
Now only one person in this chain has actually offered that. Everyone else, after offering some nice sympathies, has pretty much lectured her as to all the reasons she shouldn't be asking for what she's asking. Then she's had to defend herself by reminding you guys that she actually knows a thing or two about her own life experience. Read her posts again.
Yeah, I may only have limited experience with laying up glass, Sway - but I bet it's far more experience than you guys have being a broke chick with a couple of toddlers and a husband living on a boat (troubled though it may be) because you know it works for you.
I'm just sayin'....
(PS - And no I'm not giving her my boat. But I'm also not haranguing her for asking for one. And I definitely wouldn't be cruel enough to give her Dog's. Have you seen that thing?)
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Originally Posted by smackdaddy
Heh-heh, yeah Chall - the whole "community helping her with her problem" thing has gone just swimmingly hasn't it? My bad.
Look - it's simple: What did she ask for? A free boat.
Now only one person in this chain has actually offered that. Everyone else, after offering some nice sympathies, has pretty much lectured her as to all the reasons she shouldn't be asking for what she's asking. Then she's had to defend herself by reminding you guys that she actually knows a thing or two about her own life experience. Read her posts again.
Yeah, I may only have limited experience with laying up glass, Sway - but I bet it's far more experience than you guys have being a broke chick with a couple of toddlers and a husband living on a boat (troubled though it may be) because you know it works for you.
I'm just sayin'....
(PS - And no I'm not giving her my boat. But I'm also not haranguing her for asking for one. And I definitely wouldn't be cruel enough to give her Dog's. Have you seen that thing?)
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At least I have a boat.  No one has ever seen the Smacktanic... either in photo or video. Or seen you sailing for that matter.  And all we ever see you doing is talking trash.
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Failing that what say you about getting behind my idea of getting some smart shipwrightly folk here to have a look and see if we can't help her out with her existing boat??
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As a follow up - if that's what she wants, that's cool with me. But that's the point....is that what she wants?
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