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Nice! I just discovered this thread. Good one. So the Froli Sleep System is awesome. We have a vee-berth with original vinyl cushions and fiddle edges that protrud up maybe an inch and a half. When the filler is in, we would end up feeling the wood fiddles in our back. Not very comfortable for sleeping, let alone any amorous activities... I had already done an "I Found it at the Boat Show" video segment with them for our TV show, and they said the video worked wonders. But they were getting a lot of requests for an installation video. So we traded - full disclosure here - an installation video for the Froli system (they got the better end of the deal as far as monetary value, but then we get to sleep without wood in our backs now, so we are very satisfied and happy!). Our friends who liveaboard their Grand Banks are also extremely satisfied. In fact, the few people I've run into that actually have the Froli on their boat are all 100% satisfied.

It was very easy to install, and it made a huge improvement! And it's not very expensive, either. I believe the system we got was worth about $250. Which isn't much considering the benefits (which include air circulation under the mattresses for liveaboards and those in more humid environments). Still, I run into people all the time that ask if the system really works. Now, I don't make any money from it, so I figured it would be OK to post the installation video here. If nothing else, it demonstrates very clearly everything I am talking about...

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I came across this in the product review section and had no idea there was anything like it available. I will be spending more than a fair amount of time aboard my Cal 28 and wonder if anyone else has any experience with it.

I had at first planned on replacing the original V berth cushions with thick memory foam.

Thanks in advance.
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I put a froli system in our v berth this past spring and it is absolutely great. It is under our foam matress and not only gives air circulation but makes the bed feel better than many of those high end mattresses you can buy. An installation video would have been nice but it wasnt too hard to figure out without one. It took about an hour and a half from opening the box to putting the sheets back on.
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I put a froli system in our v berth this past spring and it is absolutely great. It is under our foam matress and not only gives air circulation but makes the bed feel better than many of those high end mattresses you can buy. An installation video would have been nice but it wasnt too hard to figure out without one. It took about an hour and a half from opening the box to putting the sheets back on.
sck5 ... thanks for the input ... I am seriously considering purchasing this unit.
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I believe this couple installed this system (or the similar springy type competitor) and they have raved about both the comfort and the coolness of getting the mattress off the actual flat surface.

I have seen the springy stuff, the Froli snap-together stuff, and a sort of low slat-type system. All of them work on the idea that putting an inch of space and some non-rigid support between you, your mattress and the boat leads to a big increase in comfort and coolness.

The only downside is that you might have to both raise your bed space's fiddles and/or use your leecloths more often, because your body is going to be a bit higher. Not a huge issue for most.
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Bought the Froli at the boat show in Annapolis two years ago. Love it!
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I believe this couple installed this system (or the similar springy type competitor) and they have raved about both the comfort and the coolness of getting the mattress off the actual flat surface.

I have seen the springy stuff, the Froli snap-together stuff, and a sort of low slat-type system. All of them work on the idea that putting an inch of space and some non-rigid support between you, your mattress and the boat leads to a big increase in comfort and coolness.

The only downside is that you might have to both raise your bed space's fiddles and/or use your leecloths more often, because your body is going to be a bit higher. Not a huge issue for most.
Voliente ...

Thanks for the information ...

Tho' one of the reasons I am going to spend so much time aboard is to downsize my life and become a bit more spartan ... a few creature comforts will surely be welcome ... and I believe this is one of them ...

This is about 2 months out in my current buget/plan but I will definately revisit with photos as well as commentary ...
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Bought the Froli at the boat show in Annapolis two years ago. Love it!
mgmhead ...

that's good to hear ...

I've noticed that in the videos I've seen it's mentioned that ~anyone~ can install in 90 minutes ... which means I should be able to have it operational in 8 hours ...
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actually, it really is pretty easy. the first module takes some fiddling but once you do it for one module all the rest are exactly the same. If you need to cut some in half for edges or corners you can do it with a pair of scissors. Just be sure to print out the pictures they have on the website and bring it with you to the boat. Not too hard at all.

The only thing I would say is that there is a comment somewhere in their literature that you can leave two halves of the system disconnected so as to be able to get at storage under the bed more easily. I tried this and it didnt work - the two halves slid around and caused problems. But when I went ahead and connected them to make one big mat on the v-berth it was still not too hard to access the storage beneath because you can sort of roll the mat back on itself without having it come apart. Besides, if you are like me, you have stuff under the v-berth that you dont need to get at very often.
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Can any of you that have bought the Froli system give me an idea of cost for an average sized V-berth.
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Can any of you that have bought the Froli system give me an idea of cost for an average sized V-berth.
irwin325cc

I have read that the 'average' V-berth runs about $250.

Froli has put on offer on the Cat 34 owners group store

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stating "The average cost to outfit a v-berth is about $250. The price range to equip a twin-size to queen-size bed is $170-$340"

AND offering members of the Cat 34 owners group a 15% discount!

Perhaps someone here can contact them and see if we can get a discount for sailnet members as well. (I can email them to find out myself - but don't want to do anything unauthorized).
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