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jobi 06-28-2010 04:13 PM

winter liveabord in Montreal?
just wondering if one can livabord on the hard in winter?

I have acces to electricity for heating and cooking, of coars this would only be this winter to save cash.

sailingdog 06-28-2010 04:38 PM

No, living aboard on the hard is generally a bad idea, especially in places that get a lot of snow and cold weather.

killarney_sailor 06-28-2010 04:46 PM

Pretty hard to do
We lived onboard over a couple of winters in New York City and being in the water helps a lot since it is not much below 30F (salt) and the air near the surface is kept a bit warmer too. On the hard the boat would be exposed on all sides to air that could be -20 and colder. Don't know if people live on boats all year in Montreal - there are lots of people doing that in Toronto which is similar in terms of weather (other than snowfall).

sailingdog 06-28-2010 05:11 PM

BTW, there are people who do liveaboard year round in that part of the world, and some of them have blogs... none of them AFAIK winter aboard with the boat on the hard....all are living with the boat afloat.

jobi 06-28-2010 05:39 PM

I was thinking on wintering in toronto because the water dont freez, in montreal I guess ice would make this imposible?

sailingdog 06-28-2010 05:52 PM

Montreal and Toronto are pretty similar in terms of weather, and you could liveaboard in either city, provided the boat was on the water and the slip had the circulators to prevent ice from forming.

jobi 06-29-2010 01:12 PM

trust me winters in toronto ar a fun ride compared to winters in montreal, we get alot more snow and lower temps for a longer time period. most of the st-laurence freezes over and ice brakers work hard to keep the ship way clear.

I have never heard about circulators, in fact I dont know much about anything boat related, but I know it would take incredible circulation to keep water from freezing in anny marina anywhere in quebec.

I have friends in toronto that ride motorcycle almost year ronde, here we have ski-doos, and every winter we get the feeling we will ride them all year, but eventualy spring sets inn and we start living again.:)

catamariner 06-29-2010 01:14 PM

Kingston is closer to you than Toronto, and has a lovely little downtown area right around the marinas. Maybe there?

jobi 06-29-2010 05:32 PM

I love toronto and thers plenty job oportunities for me.
like Kingston too but nobody I know there.
but I think you ar right about Kingston being more clement then MTL, maybe boats cauld stay afloat all winter there?


killarney_sailor 06-29-2010 06:58 PM

Need to find somewhere that takes winter liveaboards
I think that the climate conditions in Kingston are doable and it is a lovely place to live, but you need to have a marina that operates in the winter and I doubt that either of the two large ones in Kingston do (downtown and Collins Bay). I know of several marinas in Toronto that have significant winter populations (Bluffers, west side of main harbour (forget the name) and Port Credit). Now is a good time to check on availability since the one downtown at least has a waiting list.

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