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post #31 of 71 Old 04-06-2009
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I re-measured "Georgia" by dropping plumb bobs from the bow and stern and measured the distance along the ground between. It came out to 36 feet 10 inches. Previously, I measured her over the deck using spirit levels at the bow and stern and got 36 feet 11 inches. Why wouldn't Lee Creekmore have called "Georgia" a Creekmore 37? Have any of you with Creekmore 36s measured your overall length? Best regards to all, Scoopy.
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I just read through all the previous Q & A re Creekmore 36s. I just purchased one last year, and am currently rebuilding it. Its name was Rubaiyat. I have the original purchase agreement signed by the previous owner and Raymond Creekmore. She was purchased on May 6, 1963. I am the second owner. Her length is 36'-8" with a 10' beam, and no centerboard. She is Yawl rigged, and the main boom is 16 feet long. The engine is a Brit Lister air cooled diesel.

It is still under it's winter cover, but when spring finally comes, I will post some pics. the first thing I had to do was re-core the deck, as the rigid foam core had become a sponge.
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Rubiayat, I saw your boat for sale! This is absolutely incredible you have found your way to this forum thread. Feel free to post some pictures because your boat very closely resembles the 36 foot creekmore magic. That is great you know much of the earlier history. Let us know if we can be of any assistance and that would be cool if you could get a blog of your recommissioning.
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Creekmore 36s

Hello Rubiayat and welcome to this little band of excited Creekmore owners.

I look forward to your pictures.

Anybody got an idea how Creekmore 36s can be 36' 8" and 36' 10' or 11"? My boat is also 10' on the beam.

I would be most interested in learning what you know about the early history of the Creekmore 36s.

I've got some of the covers off but the weather has not gotten above 50 and is still going below freezing at night (Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin). But this does not stop me from thinking about my plans for "Georgia."

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Rubiayat, my son (J24mark) and I had been watching Rubiayat on the Internet over the past year or so on the Three Mile Harbor Boatyard web site. We are excited that you have purchsed the Creekmore and will be bringing it back to life. At one point, there were a few pictures of Rubiayat we could pull up but if you could post a few more as you work through the refurbishment process it would be great. We have quite a few refurb projects on our agenda for Magic, our 36' Creekmore, too.
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Rubiayat back to life

As soon as I get the cover off, I will take some photos of the current project, which is re-coring the deck. The foam was almost completely saturated. I cut the uppermost fiberglass skin off, and epoxied the new core material, marine grade 3/8" plywood to the lower skin, and then came winter. My next project is to have all the bronze ports re-glazed, and the ports re-caulked.

As far as i can tell, the original owner bought the boat in 1963, and kept it in the New York City area until his passing in 1984. The boat sat in the Long Island yard from approximately that time.

It was a yawl at one time as all the chainplates and mast base are still there, but the mizzen mast was missing. The interior of the boat is all mahogany, and with the exception of water damage around the companionway, is in very good condition.

I did contact Lee Creekmore, and he has provided me with the line drawings for the boat showing it as a Yawl. You can find Raymond Creekmore's abeviated biography on line. I have collected all his illustrated books. He actually lived in Japan the same time I was there, although he was slightly older than I was at the time.

Hopefully the weather will stay springlike in a few weeks. I need that fiberglass itch....it means summer can't be far behind.

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Rodger, good effort on your Creekmore. It is amazing that Rubiayat sat in the yard since 1984. It seems the deck suffered but hopefully the hull is very dry. Our Creekmore 36, Magic, sat in a yard in St Augustine for a year or two. We brought her to Atlanta and worked on the bottom, sanding off four layers of paint, and adding three layers of Interprotec and two layers of paint. How many of your ports open? Only two of Magic's open but they are very nice bronze ports. We suspect that Magic was also a yawl in past but no hardware evidence confirms this. The name of your Creekmore, Rubiayat, is surely interesting. Have you been able to learn its origin? John
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A wet weekend, and a long honey-do list prevented any work on the boat. There are two operable portholes in the main cabin on both sides. There are two operable portholes on both sides forward, as well as a 5" round porthole facing forward. There is an operable porthole in the head, and another opposite above the hanging locker. There are two dorade vents, one over the head, and one above the the passageway to the forpeak. The traveler is aft of the cockpit traversing from coaming to coaming. It is one of the items on the upgrade-replace list.

One place to check for the mizzen mast is the support column running from the hull to the deck just forward of the after hatch, but the chainplates should still be visable above the deck.

The mast base had four winches mounted to it, and only two winches at the cockpit. I plan on adding two winches to the cabin with clutches for various lines.

Hopefully the weather will cooperate this weekend.

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Wondering how the restoration is going Rubiyat? Feel free to give us some updates, thanks!
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Rubiyat, I can't believe it. I knew your boat pretty well. My family almost bought that boat in 1965 from the second owner, a man whose last name was something Ruby. We even did a sail trial and went to survey on the boat. If I remember right, that boat was delivered as a kit to another owner and partially finished by the original owner, who then sold it to Ruby who named her Rubiyat. In those days she had a black hull.

It was a neat but ideosycncratic boat. It had an air cooled engine and at least in those days you had to open the sail locker and hook up this giant galvanized wind scoop when you wanted to motor.

Another oddity of the boat was that one side of the bow (starboard I believe) was convex and the other side was slightly concave.

The boat did sail well, although the versions delivered with the centerboard sailed better and would beat her in races.

I can't recall why, but the boat failed survey and we moved on and bought a Vanguard, but I remember her well.

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