Hot water - Page 5 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Out There > Cruising & Liveaboard Forum > Living Aboard
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #41  
Old 02-18-2012
Maine Sail's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maine Coast
Posts: 5,525
Thanks: 13
Thanked 146 Times in 112 Posts
Rep Power: 15
Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by sea_hunter View Post
That's a good suggestion, but would kibosh the ESPAR idea and go with the Webasto version as Espar is known for poor reliability and support.
Espar poor reliability?? Not my experience at all.... Up here Espar parts are VERY easy to get though you rarely need them and support is easily available if needed. Both Webasto and Espar are decent units.

If you'd said Espar is more expensive then I could agree but not on the reliability statement...
__________________
______
-Maine Sail / CS-36T


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




© Images In Posts Property of Compass Marine Inc.


Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #42  
Old 02-19-2012
SVAuspicious's Avatar
Mermaid Hunter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: on the boat - Chesapeake
Posts: 3,637
Thanks: 0
Thanked 130 Times in 115 Posts
Rep Power: 9
SVAuspicious will become famous soon enough
I have owned and run both Webasto and Espar on my liveaboard boat. My experience has been that Espar is much more reliable and maintenance is easier.
__________________
sail fast and eat well, dave
S/V Auspicious
AuspiciousWorks.com
beware "cut and paste" sailors.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #43  
Old 02-19-2012
Maine Sail's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maine Coast
Posts: 5,525
Thanks: 13
Thanked 146 Times in 112 Posts
Rep Power: 15
Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by SVAuspicious View Post
I have owned and run both Webasto and Espar on my liveaboard boat. My experience has been that Espar is much more reliable and maintenance is easier.

Having worked on both, that is also my take... I have a number of customers who've owned both brands on different boats. Most have preferred the Espar to the Webasto.. . But again, both brands make a decent product and both are quite reliable...
__________________
______
-Maine Sail / CS-36T


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




© Images In Posts Property of Compass Marine Inc.


Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #44  
Old 03-05-2012
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Annapolis/Spa Creek
Posts: 20
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
wouldrathersail is on a distinguished road
Re: Hot water

Interested to hear any input on this, as this is what we're planning to do...

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSter View Post
This may be a small tangent, but, another point to consider is the use of a diversion load from a solar/wind charge controller. This diversion load circuit can include a 12v heating element installed in the hot water tank in place of the 110v element. Once the charge controller satisfies the battery banks, it diverts usable voltage to the diversion load. This is something I am considering but have not yet tried or even fully investigated. How efficient is this (no idea)???....but it does seem logical not to waste the electrical potential when available.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #45  
Old 03-05-2012
Amazing Grace's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 30
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Amazing Grace is on a distinguished road
Re: Hot water

Hot water on demand via LPG hot water heater. Runs directly off propane. Much more efficient than heat exchanger. Works on same principal as at home on demand LPG hot water heater. :-)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #46  
Old 03-05-2012
sea_hunter's Avatar
Senior Cruiser
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 512
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 15
sea_hunter is on a distinguished road
Re: Hot water

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amazing Grace View Post
Hot water on demand via LPG hot water heater. Runs directly off propane. Much more efficient than heat exchanger. Works on same principal as at home on demand LPG hot water heater. :-)
Tankless propane water heaters are not recommended for boats unless externally mounted. (Read manufacturers' instruction manuals) The other issue is tankless water heaters burn exorbitant amounts of NG or propane (Figure out the BTU's~ input to output) and are little better than generator powered electric versions. It's all in the math (or the fuel). In the end, diesel hot water heaters are the safest and most efficient.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #47  
Old 03-05-2012
sea_hunter's Avatar
Senior Cruiser
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 512
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 15
sea_hunter is on a distinguished road
Re: Hot water

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSter View Post
This may be a small tangent, but, another point to consider is the use of a diversion load from a solar/wind charge controller. This diversion load circuit can include a 12v heating element installed in the hot water tank in place of the 110v element. Once the charge controller satisfies the battery banks, it diverts usable voltage to the diversion load. This is something I am considering but have not yet tried or even fully investigated.
I've installed this diversionary system and it does work, but is dependent on the ability of the charge controller. The Outback has a very reasonable interface that's user friendly and easy to hook up. The element issue is neither here nor there as an element is merely a resistor and doesn't care about voltage (it's about cycling and amps). A small 2 gallon electric (110 or 220V) hot water tank (from your local home hardware store) with the diverted load wired through the thermostat works just fine. The only problem is when you're creating a large amount of diverted heat; you'll need a cold water mixing valve to prevent scalding.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Air, Water or Air / Water Cooled Refer Condensor OceanFreedom Gear & Maintenance 12 02-03-2011 01:35 AM
Fresh Water cooling water dirty brown sailak Gear & Maintenance 17 08-01-2009 12:52 AM
Refrigeration -Using the water tank as a cooling water source HenryRusty Gear & Maintenance 7 03-29-2007 01:14 AM
Fresh water boat to salt water svs3 Boat Review and Purchase Forum 6 12-30-2006 01:41 PM
MD3B Volvo-Penta sea water to fresh water conversion slosharron Gear & Maintenance 20 06-17-2003 10:08 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:43 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.