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Re: Cal 28 Vs. Catalina 27 livaboard

I have the C27-dinette like you're talking about. A couple of pics here:

Show me your sailboat's interior

I'm 6' (and ripped, of course). You'll have standing room only near the companion-way. And you'll only be able to stretch out in the pilot berth. And you'll continually bump the crap out of your head on the v-berth "door" frame top.

The dinette is actually a really nice option, because it gives you another good-sized bed - or a bit more layout room on the table while you're cooking. Storage, for clothes, etc. - is very minimal. You've got the hanging locker, but it's small. However, without an inboard, you've got a good deal of room in the engine compartment.

I replaced the holding tank in our boat - and re-plumbed the head. It's easy. The holding tank goes under the forward dinette seat and you just plumb up from there to the head, vent and pump-out. BUT, you'll be emptying your holding tank A LOT. So be ready for that hassle.

I personally wouldn't want to live on my boat (or a Cal 28). Especially in a cold damp climate. Too freakin' small. But that's just me.

I love sailing her and spending a few days at a time on her though!


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Re: Cal 28 Vs. Catalina 27 livaboard

Thank you everyone. I am super stoked on how much information I am receiving here.

I am going to have a look at them both in the next couple of days. Anything in particular I have to look out for?

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Re: Cal 28 Vs. Catalina 27 livaboard

As with any older boat... smells indicative of wood rot, soft, spongy decks, moisture leaks (fittings, windows, stanchions, etc - look for tell tale streaks/black spots in wood finishes) Mildew on overheads and hull sides inside (ceiling) from excess moisture for whatever reason, and so on.

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One upgrade I did on my C27 was to replace the old cast-aluminum spreader brackets, as one had cracked where it was bolted to the mast. The old ones are a dull gray, similar to the end-boom fittings, and sort of triangular in shape. The new ones are bright SS, much larger, and rectangular; you can't confuse them, even from the deck.

A lot of C27 owners complain about rot in the bulkheads where the chainplates are attached. I don't have this problem on my boat. However, I do have the old-style eyebolts for the lower shroud chainplates, and one is showing signs of corrosion. Ideally these would be replaced with larger eyebolts or U-bolts (a job I need to do on mine).

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Re: Cal 28 Vs. Catalina 27 livaboard

Thanks everyone for the great advice.
I found out the cal needs some small fibreglass work on the deck and cockpit.

Its going to be interesting to see it.
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Thanks everyone for the great advice.
I found out the cal needs some small fibreglass work on the deck and cockpit.

Its going to be interesting to see it.
Hmmmm....
Depending on exactly what "small fiberglass work" means, that might not be too big a deal. If it's just a matter of covering up some old instrument cutouts, or some such, that wouldn't be any kind of deal breaker. That sort of thing is pretty easy to fix (epoxy is your friend ). If there has been some sort of accident and the fiberglass got bashed it, I would be a little more leery. In any case, take a good look at any woodwork that might have been exposed to water intrusion (due to this or anything else). If water has been leaking in for some time, there might well be some rot.
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I'm speaking as a liveaboard here - do you want to live and sail on this boat? It's hard to do both, but it can be done. The smaller the boat, the harder it is to do both, too. You'll have to be extremely disciplined in what possessions you allow aboard, otherwise she'll become a potted plant sitting next to a dock -- nothing wrong with that if that's your plan, mind you. However, if you are looking for more of the lakeside cottage thing, you can expand your search. Get the biggest thing you can afford that doesn't leak either from the top or the bottom. On the other hand, if you want to sail, I'd also recommend the biggest thing you can get, but then you'll also want to consider such esoteric things as seaworthiness and sailing qualities.

Both boats you're talking about are absolutely on the small end for liveaboard - for one person, let alone two. If this is a 6-month thing, it might be OK, but if you're talking longer-term, you really need something bigger. I do know folks who liveaboard on 27' boats, but they quickly start to resemble vagrants. Remember: there's a fine line between living aboard and in a 'van down by the river.' There are also lots of wonderful things about living aboard at a marina, not the least of which is a sense of community that just doesn't exist elsewhere in American society at this date.
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Remember: there's a fine line between living aboard and in a 'van down by the river.'
neuman, this nails what I imagine living on my C27 would be like. Thanks for the confirmation.
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