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No better source than the USDA. Thats scientific enough for me.

Note while it says you can use both, It also says that non porus surfaces are easier to clean than wood. In a boat environment that also holds true.

As a certified Serv Safe instructor and a Federal HACCP instructor, the guidelines in the Serv Safe book ( which I am sure you use when teaching your students in the Culinary College) is very specific. Does The Health Department in Anne Arundel County allow wooden cutting boards? In Montgomery , PG, DC. Pennsylvania, and New Jersey where if have worked they are not permitted. they are not permitted.

Another reason wood is not perferrable is that because of it porous nature it is more likely to hold moisture and water than plastic. Wood cutting boards never really dry as the water gets imbedded in them. As you are aware moisture is one of the critical components for microbiological growth.

Bot types of cutting boards sgould be discarded when there are knife scars as stated by the USDA. The reason is obvious as they become a place to harbor food scarps. So tell me how old the board is in your boat. If you want to keep the nice decorative look for 30 years it should not be used for cutting. Another reaosn for not using wood is that quite often the boards have seems which are glued together. Over time the wood sweels ( because it is poris) and these seems open up and allow cracks for the food to get trapped in.

While most of this is ultra safety, it doesnt mean its not applicable. In our industry the days of the wooden cutting boards have vanished just like the wooden handled knoves have.


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Cutting Boards and Food Safety

Which is better, wooden or plastic cutting boards? Consumers may choose either wood or a nonporous surface cutting board such as plastic, marble, glass, or pyroceramic. Nonporous surfaces are easier to clean than wood.
Cutting Boards and Food Safety

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Plastic cutting boards have the seal of approval from research scientists. According to studies, wood cutting boards were more likely to retain bacteria than plastic cutting boards, even after a thorough scrubbing with a cleanser. Bacteria can be absorbed into the pores of wooden cutting boards. Contrary to earlier studies, the bacteria didn’t die in these wooden boards. About 75% of the bacteria lay dormant where they could
potentially contaminate other foods placed on the board.



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Wood Vs. Plastic Cutting Boards - Are Wooden Cutting Boards Better Than Plastic?
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Re: The Galley - Must Haves, Don't Needs & Wish List

Like we both said, we disagree on the topic and that we both can agree on LOL

FWIW, Marylands COMAR http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/get...0.15.03.15.htm
(8) Cutting blocks, bakers tables, and similar wood food contact surfaces are made from:

(a) Hard maple; or

(b) Another material that is:

(i) Nontoxic;

(ii) Smooth; and

(iii) Free of cracks, crevices, and open seams;

In addition, New Jersey also allows wooden cutting boards http://nj.gov/health/eoh/documents/c...ctive_1207.pdf

These both were pulled from here http://www.fda.gov/food/foodsafety/r.../ucm122814.htm
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I know...you asked for scientific evidence so I provided. State COMAR.? Aren't you under the counties jurisdiction? We will always disagree on this I guess.

We both agree though that either material needs wash rinse and sanitizing well. Most people fail to sanitize I think.

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Re: The Galley - Must Haves, Don't Needs & Wish List

Looks like the science is in agreement on what's safest is what's most likely to be kept sterile. I'm kinda covering all the bases in s/v Cinderella's galley -- our cutting board is Starboard (for now, it needs replacement in the not-to-distant future which is what prompted my question) but most of our spatulas and my bread-kneading bowl are wood. At home as opposed to a commercial kitchen, esthetics will play a role as well. And we literally buy white vinegar by the gallon on this boat!

For lunch we had black eyed peas (for good luck); leafy greens (to encourage money to come into our lives) and honey cake (for a sweet year). Any other food traditions for New Year's Day we should incorporate?
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Re: The Galley - Must Haves, Don't Needs & Wish List

How about a galley review from a skipper with a vulgar palette! Spices like sex toys?,- I don't think so! Flotation devices on your tongs?,- I don't know if we own tongs! Don't misunderstand me,- I'm addicted to food.....'not a day goes by, but I like everything! What's the galley like for the cruiser that's an easy mark? I once owned a grill on my transom,- it was a gift soon regifted because it was never used. I never fish! Way too much work for something to eat. I was once asked if I wanted a second beer, "sure", I said, but when I pulled the first beer out of the cozy it was exposed as a diet coke. I never noticed! So, here's the galley for the easy mark. I like the double sink so I can use one side as a dish drainer. I have a propane three burner propane Princess oven, but I've never used the oven,- a perfect place to store some pots and pans. I refill my two 13lb propane tanks a little less often than once a year! For 110V tools I have a toaster oven, microwave, Mr.Coffee & electric fry pan. For 12V I have a low amp draw Danfloss 6.5 cubic foot refrig/freezer. Nancie insists on some fresh produce, but I'm good with anything in cans! Pressure cooking?,- no stress....it just does not happen.....'pass me that beer or diet coke,- whatever!
Edit: best microwave recipe: Nuke it 'till it pops!
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Re: The Galley - Must Haves, Don't Needs & Wish List

I'm not sure if this is a repost, but I've found this site to be a wonderful source of information. Always interesting and new posts, plus the occasional giveaway.

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As for a favourite thing in my galley, I would have to say my double walled, vacuum sealed Klean Kanteen bottle/thermos. The moment the coffee or tea is ready I pour the extra in the bottle and, even hours later, it is burn-your-lips hot. I've found it to be a great companion on cold watches, and it also saves propane that would be used to heat up drinks that have cooled. It's also made of stainless steal which helps its longevity.

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Thermoses are great! they keep hot hings hot and cold things cold!
Energy savers for sure!
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Re: The Galley - Must Haves, Don't Needs & Wish List

Couple of points re recent mini cruise .....

Summer .... pressure cooker not used at all. Yes it got good use in winter but in warm weather, think tits on a bull.

Stacking Cookware .... rarely used but see below re food processors.

Manual Machines .... manually operated blender and food processer are on our list. Given that we don't spend a lot of time plugged into shore power (48 hours in four weeks) recharging appliance batteries is a pain in the butt, even with only telephones and computers it seems never ending. I reckon that with a manual FP we'll then make more use of the stacking cookware, particularly the stock pot for both cold summer soups and hot winter.

Grills (aka BBQs) .... we currently have one of those round Magma kettle jobs. Rectangular unit is on the way. While the round is fine for grilling a couple of steaks or a whole fish, being able to use the grill as , in effect, a two burner stove would be a great boon. Cooking below decks in an Australian summer is just plain silly.

Cockpit work table .... havn't worked this out yet and maybe it can be an add on to the new BBQ but having a work table available while one cooks would make life so much easier. Cockpit table is too far away from the bbq to be practical, particularly with a non walk through cockpit.

btw .... what brand of grill do you use ?

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edit - erkkk ... should have posted this in the Galley Equip thread not the provisioning thread. Post is on the move.
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Re: The Galley - Must Haves, Don't Needs & Wish List

I have a microwave after reading a article written bya very experience cruising couple, in it they stated they had one for heavy weather sailing ,as it negated using the stove with potential hot whatever and getting burned, made sense to me, so i have a small 800 watt unit powered thru a inverter and i have used it more than once in heavy weather, it's fast and safe.
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