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pk5352 02-24-2010 02:19 PM

Glen Cove to Shelter Island
 
Hey Folks-
Planning an early May trip from Glen Cove out to Shelter Island. The rub is, I've got 2 days to make the trip. Operating daylight hours only.

One option is to make the run from Glen Cove to Port Jeff/Sinai in one day and then head eastward from Port Jeff/Sinai, then around the point into SI the next day. Leg two of this option is sort of a long trip if I'm correct, but seems doable.

The other option is to head out of Glen Cove then hug the CT shoreline and where there are more options for the overnight and stop somewhere there along the way, then continue on to SI day 2.

Any advice on which of these two options makes the most sense? Any other suggestions?

anemoneii 02-24-2010 02:52 PM

I bought my boat in Glen Cove last year, it took 5 hours to get to Port Jefferson Harbor where I live. PJ to Shelter is 11 hours (done this) so it's not cutting the trip into two. I would sail to Duck Island or the Thimble Islands, or if you want to be in a harbor try Branford.

Brezzin 02-24-2010 03:24 PM

PK5352- welcome to sailnet
What kind of boat do you have? that would help us determine what you can do in a day.

Bene505 02-24-2010 03:50 PM

We did Glen Cove to Montauk last year (beginning of July). The second day is definitely longer. You also need to plan for the tides going through Plum Gut, which can give you a big boost or slow you to almost nothing. If the timing is right, you can get up at first light and easily make Shelter Island. Plan on motoring to make the tide. You'll probably have to keep moving, even if there is no wind.

Again, your schedule will depend on the tides, as well as the usual weather considerations.

Best to plan some options. Port Jeff is one option, then pick another one that let's you put in a long first day. And plan an alternate weekend in case you need to postpone due to weather.

From the other thread, what type of boat are you looking at having surveyed?

Regards,
Brad

pk5352 02-24-2010 03:53 PM

Thanks for the responses. Brezzin and Bene- It's a Sabre 28.

I'm definitely onboard with having alternate routes/ports/dates for this. Just starting to sketch it out now. Again, thanks so much for the input.

sailingdog 02-24-2010 04:20 PM

I'd highly recommend that you be a bit more flexible about sailing during daylight hours only. To make the tides at Plum Gut, you might need to leave before daybreak. You want to make sure you get to whereever you're stopping for the night before dusk. Dusk is the worst time to enter a harbor, especially a strange one.

I'd also recommend that you look over the charts and make a page for each harbor that you might have to bail out at that lists the navigation marks and compass courses you'll need to enter them safely. Trying to look this stuff up in an emergency is a bad idea.

pk5352 02-24-2010 04:27 PM

sailingdog-
totally agree- i only meant that in the sense that I will not be doing an overnight sail. absolutely planning on the possibility of a pre-daybreak departure maybe on both days. Thanks for the tips.

chef2sail 02-24-2010 08:09 PM

This summer one of the legs of our trip to Marthas Vineyard is a leg from Mt Siani to Greenport/ Southport/Shelter Island. We are planning one running with the tide through the gut and it is a long 8-10 hr day (5 knot average). Our weather port or bail out along the way would be Mattiuk Inlet

Dave

Brezzin 02-24-2010 08:11 PM

Back in October We did Mystic CT to Glen Cove in a day on a Lagoon 4400 about 12 hours in total that day. We averaged probably a little over 8 knots because it was a nasty day and we motored from the inside helm. I know you can't do this but quite honestly I think you can probably average around 4 to 5 knots. Now Glen Cove to SI is approx 81 total miles. Glen Cove to Port Jeff is 29 miles from breakwater to harbor entrance. So your right, day 2 will be a killer.
I think you should try to get at least to Mt Sinai Harbor. I know its only about 4 miles further but that's an hour less the next day. I don't love the idea of going over to the CT coast because it will add 3 to 4 hours to your total trip time. Remember that you never go as fast as you plan to. I think if you motor the whole way day one you can (actually will have to if you go past Mt Sinai) get to Mattituck at around 53 miles. That makes day 2 an easy 30 mile run. Giving you more flexibility going through the gut. You can be drinking a beer at Claudios by 3 pm.

pk5352 02-24-2010 08:26 PM

Thanks chef2sail for the input. Very helpful. Also, thanks Brezzin. I like the thinking on stretching for Mattituck on day 1- as i've been researching more, Mattituck seems a more possible 1st leg destination- of course that assumes i make decent time and can project a decent arrival time as i pass Sinai- i understand Mattituck can be a tricky inlet in good light, so I would certainly be mindful of arrival time. The upside is I have people in Mattituck and that local knowledge could be helpful. My next step is to start looking at Eldridge and checking the tides on certain dates and start gaming out the itinerary. Thanks all- will keep the thread posted as things develop and all additional input is obviously welcomed.


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