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sailingnyc 09-21-2010 08:56 AM

Winter Storage Recommendations?
 
I'm looking to find a home for Dove for the winter and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations in the western sound. Port Washington would be ideal.

Anything specific questions I should ask when I call around? Any tricks to ensuring that I'll be able to get her in the water early in the season?

I'm figuring on getting her shrink-wrapped and put in dry storage. Cost is a consideration, so I'd be grateful for any tips.

thanks

chef2sail 09-21-2010 02:17 PM

Winter storage....eeeks...we still have two months left in our season

jjablonowski 09-21-2010 02:26 PM

Lotsa places on City Island, if you don't mind paying the Throgs Neck Bridge toll when you go north to work on your boat.

I like Stuyvesant YC. Check ActiveCaptain - The Interactive Cruising Guidebook - Marina Reviews, Fuel Prices, Anchorages for users' reviews.

CalebD 09-21-2010 06:29 PM

A general boatyard rule of thumb is: last in = first out.
You mentioned 'dry storage'. I may be mistaken but to me this implies storing your boat (indoors) inside a shed or hangar - some boat yards have them. This would likely be the most expensive option.
Shrink wrapping would imply that your boat would be stored outdoors on jack stands. This would be the mid-range expensive option.
Some marinas offer in-water storage which would be the cheapest option. You would still want to do a short haul in the spring for bottom maintenance though. I'm reasonably confident that this option is available in Manhasset, Glen Cove and Huntington marinas.
I'm not a fan of shrink wrapping because of the expense and the waste of materials it creates. You can buy a lot of tarps and 1x3"s for less then the $10/ft cost of shrink wrapping. Good luck whichever way you go.

sailingnyc 09-23-2010 10:47 AM

Thanks for the replies!

@chef2sail - Yes way too fast. I have to have it off my mooring by Oct 15th. Still hoping to have a few more weeks of good weather.

@jjablonowski - I'll call around CI and compare prices. Tolls aren't an issue but accessibility to public transit is... Do most places let you work on your boat in the winter or should I be asking this question when I call?

@CalebD - You're right, I was contradicting myself. I'm figuring on keeping it outside, out of the water. This is my first season so all this is new to me. I do agree that shrink-wrapping seems expensive and excessive. My issue is that I don't own a vehicle so getting supplies to the yard to do it myself is a hurdle. I've searched the forums and read other's DIY tarp covers and they seem pretty elaborate. Any suggestions or links on how to do this easily would be great. It would be something I'd just use for the winter, because I don't have a place to store it. Do Marinas frown on you doing it yourself? Is this something I would need to verify before deciding on a place?

thanks again,

Brett

CalebD 09-23-2010 12:03 PM

Brett,
You are going to have to ask each yard what is allowed in terms of DIY.
I just used the rates from Brewers in Glen Cove to get you an estimate for winter storage for your 25' sailboat in the NYC area. I used them as they have their updated 2010/11 prices updated and I am familiar with their yard.

Power wash: $81 ($3.25/ft - mandatory)
Shrink wrap: $406 ($16.25/ft)
Outside storage-mast up: $1300
Total: $1787 just for the winter.

Their in-water storage fee is: $850 for your 25' boat.
Their contract makes it sound like most DIY activity is not allowed but I know one fellow who keeps his boat there and a lot of DIY activities happened on his boat.

I'd definitely look into the places on City Island for price comparison shopping. Brewers GC will likely be on the high side of estimates you get from other yards in the area.
These winter storage prices might make you think again about joining a club like Hempstead Harbor Club that provides both summer and winter services at a more reasonable yearly price.
The cheapest way to deal with this is if you had a driveway and a trailer for your boat.
Whatever you do it is going to cost something.
Good luck with your winter storage search.

Hesper 09-23-2010 03:29 PM

I also keep my boat at Stuyvesant YC on CI. Members get first pick, but there's almost always room for strangers. Cost is about $40/ft mast in (incl discount for paying upfront). You can do whatever you want yourself or bring in pros of your choosing. NYC subway goes to Pelham Bay Park and from there a bus can bring you to CI. Check Welcome to Stuyvesant Yacht Club for more info.

casioqv 09-23-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chef2sail (Post 646455)
Winter storage....eeeks...we still have two months left in our season

In SoCal we just finished the two months where it's too hot to sail, and now our 10 months or so of sunny warm weather and perfect wind begin...

JimsCAL 09-23-2010 07:04 PM

Glen Cove Marina (next door to Brewers that Caleb mentioned) is $44/ft for outside storage mast up including powerwashing. You can get a 10% discount if paid in full by Sept 30. That's significantly less than Brewers. They are very good about getting you in early if you wish.

Plumbean 09-24-2010 09:49 PM

I'm also at Glen Cove marina. Cheaper than Brewers. I'm new at this, so not a lot to compare it to, but they were good to deal with. I'm headed back for this winter. If you are going to do a lot of work, be prepared to have a long extension cord. There are electrical outlets around the outside of the storage lot, but if you are in the middle of the scrum, you may need 150 feet of cordage or more to get power.


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