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I admit I have taken the same attitude, at times, towards a certain brands of motorcycles myself since I was in that field for over thirty years. I have tried to be more open minded but at times it can be hard.
I may be mistaken but it seems some others may have become a bit more tolerant.
This brings an old joke to mind. Motorcycle riders have undoubtedly heard it. Riding mopeds is like riding fat women. They're both fun until you get got!

I've witnessed/experienced the same attitudes about motorcycles. I bought my first Harley Davidson. My previous bikes were Japanese "rice burners". Now I supposedly own a "man's bike", though I bought an entry level HD, a Sporster, which some claim were designed for the female customer in mind (I don't care- it was priced right). So, now I get to tolerate those HD owners who "look down their noses" because they're riding $30K+ full dressers. I don't give a rat's ass. My wife and I enjoy riding it, so that's all that matters, though I am thinking of upgrading to a Wideglide for hopefully a more comfortable ride.

Maybe I'm cheap, but I'm having a hard time wrestling with the idea of spending the same amount of money on a bike that I spent for my 07 Chevy Impala that comes with HVAC and a CD player.
I imagine there's similar opinions about some boats.

The Chevy vs. Ford debate is old and often held amongst idiots. Both have made quality products, as well as they share of crap. Both have various lines to cater to different purposes. That's just good business sense in an effort to capture marketshare.

I'd love to find more of these bluewater threads mentioned.
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2 years ago we won a Harley Dyna Wide glide, no cash payout, so we took the darn thing home, looked at it for 2 months, then sold it with 6 km on it. We like to think of it as winning our entire electronics package, and such.
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maybe.. Although if your all here or thereabouts I could do with some sailing opinions.. I am having some issues with paperwork on my boat. It seems that the broker I bought her from did not give me the right paperwork and is now washing his hands from responsibility as is the association. The boat was bought in Fl for around $100k. The broker is a major Fl dealer. I bought the boat and was given a history of paperwork including Bills of Sale from new (virtually). I was intending to do major work on her and was advised (same broker)that as I was non us resident, I could keep her in the US without paying duty indefinetly as long as she was removed 20 days after the work finished. I have found out this is not true and have now paid sales tax and costs, plus registered her in Fl. On trying to sell her, the same brikerage advised that as i do not have a title document they cannot sell her in US. She was imported (I have proof) and duty paid by previous owner. I think I have cracked the title issue by using a document agency in Fort Lauderdale, but who should pay the cost of obtaining the title. I have been told by the doc agency as well as various other professionals that this is something I should have been given at the time of purchase.

This is obviously a condensed version of the full story. Can you provide opinion as to who should cough for the costs of paperwork corrections and as they are stome walling me, how to get the desired response if u agree that the brokerage should have furnished me with said title in the first place.

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Off topic

You seemed to have fallen in a wrong thread for your question. You might try making a new post.

I would think you could contact the State of Florida about you purchase, if it was made through a licensed dealer / broker.

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maybe.. Although if your all here or thereabouts I could do with some sailing opinions.. I am having some issues with paperwork on my boat. It seems that the broker I bought her from did not give me the right paperwork and is now washing his hands from responsibility as is the association. The boat was bought in Fl for around $100k. The broker is a major Fl dealer. I bought the boat and was given a history of paperwork including Bills of Sale from new (virtually). I was intending to do major work on her and was advised (same broker)that as I was non us resident, I could keep her in the US without paying duty indefinetly as long as she was removed 20 days after the work finished. I have found out this is not true and have now paid sales tax and costs, plus registered her in Fl. On trying to sell her, the same brikerage advised that as i do not have a title document they cannot sell her in US. She was imported (I have proof) and duty paid by previous owner. I think I have cracked the title issue by using a document agency in Fort Lauderdale, but who should pay the cost of obtaining the title. I have been told by the doc agency as well as various other professionals that this is something I should have been given at the time of purchase.

This is obviously a condensed version of the full story. Can you provide opinion as to who should cough for the costs of paperwork corrections and as they are stome walling me, how to get the desired response if u agree that the brokerage should have furnished me with said title in the first place.

Your replies welcomed
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I allways look for the 'but' and then consider the source.

I have never sailed or been on a Mac BUT
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If you really don't care what they say you should look into the metric crusiers.

I've witnessed/experienced the same attitudes about motorcycles. I bought my first Harley Davidson. My previous bikes were Japanese "rice burners". Now I supposedly own a "man's bike", though I bought an entry level HD, a Sporster, which some claim were designed for the female customer in mind (I don't care- it was priced right). So, now I get to tolerate those HD owners who "look down their noses" because they're riding $30K+ full dressers. I don't give a rat's ass. My wife and I enjoy riding it, so that's all that matters, though I am thinking of upgrading to a Wideglide for hopefully a more comfortable ride.
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[QUOTE=timebandit;573127]If you really don't care what they say you should look into the metric crusiers.

I'm not sure what you mean by "metric crusier", but I will probably test drive the wide glide before I buy one. My other alternative is to purchase a late model Kawasaski Concours w/ ABS (sport tourer).

My dad purchased his first bike at the age of 70- he bought one of those slick looking mopeds. I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime.
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If the broker won't work with you in the first place, you're going to either have to pay for lawyers to pursue the issue or pay for the title.
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