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Hi, This is an article written by an associate Rob Scanlan (no relation) in www.BostonBoating.com. I don't dispute it and I'm sure it most likely is very

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Hello, I'm retired and I've recently completed a 10 day bareboat skippers course. I would like to buy a sailboat and cruise the world, I'm also a diver and would like to dive the best spots in the world. I'm in the planning stage, I'm thinking I can buy a boat in about a year, my budget will be 100K (all in). Is it possible to get a bluewater cruiser set up and ready to cruise with this budget? What would be the best boat? and if someone knows of a boat that's already set up for cruising (electronics, sails, good rigging and good motor) let me know. Thank you for your advice in advance.
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I'm sure you can ask the question more specifically, separate cruising boats (sail and power) from the higher speed racing sailboats and quick single engine power boats of similar length
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Re: HOW EXPENSIVE IS BOATING ? a comparison Power vs Sail

Not long ago I compared costs with a neighbor that had a nearly identical 34' catamaran. He came up with $15K and I came up with $4.3K. Similar age, same area. The differences?

* I stay in the water each winter, hauling every other year.
* I do my own work.
* He is in Va, I'm in Md (different taxes).
* I sail a lot more often.

I couldn't bare his bills.

And even so, I think I will down-size in a few years.
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Re: HOW EXPENSIVE IS BOATING ? a comparison Power vs Sail

For cruisers the difference is even more dramatic. Compare a Fleming or Norhavn to an HR, passport,Hylas etc. of the same size doing typical cruising. Internal systems (HVAC, electronics, watermaker, genset etc.) are the same with same cost and maintenance requirements. Difference is fuel. Hull speed is expensive on any boat under power but even throttled back to typical 7-9kt range sailboats are burning 1-2g/h whereas power is burning multiples. Yes there are much more fuel efficient power boats ( Dashew, Gerr, etc.) but even then they are always under power. Sailboats will be under power 10-20% of the time. You need to replace sails, rigging, chainplates and such. Cruising boats will maybe get an 8 y. cycle. But even buying #2 outside the US we win out.
Interesting for the red light sailboats it's cheaper to power than sail. For the mega poweryacht floating hotels it's cheaper to be deck cargo than do passages from what I've heard.
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Re: HOW EXPENSIVE IS BOATING ? a comparison Power vs Sail

Motor from the Panama Canal to the Galapogos. Then motor, 3000 miles to Faka Rava, then thru to the Tuamotus, and again to Papete. Onwards to the Cooks, Tonga, maybe Fiji and then on to New Zealand..Tell us your fuel bill.Can you folks even work out the mileage, plus the fuel burn...Stupid ass question.
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Re: HOW EXPENSIVE IS BOATING ? a comparison Power vs Sail

When we lived in SoCal, we frequently took the boat over to Catalina for the weekends, leaving Long Beach as early as possible Thursday evening (after work) and generally arriving at Two Harbors around 2130-2200, and thereby "scoring" a First-Come-First-Served ("FCFS") mooring for the weekend. I'd take the 0630 ferry back to the mainland in the AM for work while my better half spent the day on the Island. While we then had a "fairly" comfortable boat (a Cal 2-29) she was not luxurious by any stretch.

So...at one point when some friends of ours offered us a chance to zoom over to the island with them on their luxury motor yacht for nothing more than sharing fuel costs, we jumped at the chance. With them, and throttled back, we made the trip to the island in slightly more than an hour after filling the boat's fuel tanks in Long Beach. During our stay, their generator ran unceasingly and we had all the comforts of home on the mooring. The following Sunday afternoon we zoomed back to the mainland, stopped at the fuel dock to top off, and were back in their slip by 1800. In the course of the trip we burned nearly 130 gallons of fuel, then at something on the order of $1.15 USD per gallon. Accordingly, we spent more on fuel in 3 days than we normally spent in a year on our own boat (which then held 15 gallons and we filled up 2 or 3 times a year, whether we needed it or not!).

These days, with Marine Diesel at over $3.00/gal you couldn't give me a motorboat on the fuel cost alone!
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