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Morgan 27 Diesel Repower Fit Question

I am now the owner of a 1976 Morgan 27 with a dead Farymann diesel that I'd like to replace.

I'd like to hear from those who have a diesel in your M27, in hopes of identifying those engines that would be reasonable replacements.

Please also advise if you know the particulars of your prop.

Please let me know what diesel you have in yours, and any pertinent info.

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Re: Morgan 27 Diesel Repower Fit Question

Wow!

77 people read this post, and no one has any knowledge of a diesel in an M-27....
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Re: Morgan 27 Diesel Repower Fit Question

OK... does anyone know of an Atomic 4 in an M27?
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Re: Morgan 27 Diesel Repower Fit Question

Sorry not to chime in earlier.
I know that some Newport 27's had the A4 engine and some models of Morgan sailboats too.
The A4 and Farymann were installed in Tartan 27's from the production line.
I'm not sure that the engine beds were compatible but there you are.

It should cost you a lot less to re-power with an A4 than a diesel (used or new). Your re-sale price may be less but the initial outlay should be cheaper.
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Re: Morgan 27 Diesel Repower Fit Question

Engine replacements aren't all that boat model specific, could by why so few have responded. Stay with a diesel since it's already set up for it.
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Re: Morgan 27 Diesel Repower Fit Question

IIRC from the brochure/manual, BetaMarine makes engine mounts for nearly all standard beds. Perhaps drop them a line ta see which fits what?
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Re: Morgan 27 Diesel Repower Fit Question

The original standard auxiliary engine installed in the Morgan 27s was the Universal Atomic Four. My choice for your 7,000 lb displacement would be Beta Marine's marinized Kubota. Beta Marine recommends the Beta Ten as suitable for your weight, but I would rather choose the 13.5 hp Beta. These are made to fit your original engine bed that held the Atomic Four.
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Re: Morgan 27 Diesel Repower Fit Question

Measure the exisiting engine, the space around it, and trawl the net for drawings/specs of engines of interest. Beta is a good place to start. Aside from being able to 'shoehorn' the engine into place, the spacing and location of the beds/mounts is important too.

If the boat originally had an A4 and the Faryman was adapted onto the beds (rather than the other way round) then finding a match for the original A4 beds will be easier. Sticking with diesel is probably wisest long term, but the costs may outwiegh the value of the boat... depending new vs used and how much DIY you can manage.
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Re: Morgan 27 Diesel Repower Fit Question

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.................... Sticking with diesel is probably wisest long term, but the costs may outwiegh the value of the boat... depending new vs used and how much DIY you can manage.
This is an important point. It probably depends most upon your plans with the boat. I put a new diesel in my old boat, but I'd kept the boat for twenty years and I've had it another ten since the refit with plans of keeping it for at least ten more. If you don't plan to keep the boat for a good while it might not be worth it. Either way, you can never expect to get the value back for all you put into an old boat. The value has to be in the having and not the plans to sell!
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Re: Morgan 27 Diesel Repower Fit Question

Thanks to all for your input, it's greatly appreciated. I'm about to test-fire an Atomic 4, which I plan to make new beds for if all goes well. I've fabricated an engine mount/alignment template in anticipation, and will report progress.
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