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post #51 of 156 Old 12-31-2011
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Great Original Purchase Information

My wife and I have just purchased a S-J 45 and are beginning the process of a complete refit. In our research we stumbled across Starratt and Jenks Yacht Company. It is a complete copy of the original documentation including price list, options, specs, etc. I hope it can be of help to anyone else working on one of these wonderful boats.
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Hello,
I have a S&J 45 in France for 3 years. Actually I can't legally sail further than 20 nm from a port.
I have some problems with regulation. I need S&J 45 drawings.
Do someone has any draw, diagram, design of this boat ?
I have to pass stability tests. An idiotic regulation when you how well this yach sail overseas, but I must do with ...
I already have Bill Browing doc. But it isn't enough. I need the more technical specifications I can.
Thank you for your help.
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Morgan M45 plans

The S&J 45 was designed as a racer masthead sloop by Charley Morgan back in the 60īs. Purportedly Morgan Yacht Corporation built 12 of these before it sold the molds to S&J, who built many more in various finishing stages and introduced the modified center cockpit deck option. I found the original plans for this design and attach them hereto. Hope they are useful to some of you.
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Hello,
Lot of thanks. Plans are low quality but very good. They represent quite exactly my yacht. Only some details du to various finishing stages are different.
They will be very useful.
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pdolyani;

Can you post those plans with a higher resolution? I'm a new SJ 45 owner and they will be very helpful to me during my restoration.
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Sorry, but that's all Iīve got. There is a webpage The MORGAN YACHT CONNECTION. Since the S&J 45 is a former Morgan (M-45), thatīs a place to search for more info. Regards.
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Re: Starrett-Jenks Morgan45 info-opinions

Bloodhunter, I looked for your photo gallery for some pics, but could not find it or them. I am looking at a S&J 45 and would like to learn all I can about the boat. Thanks, Jon
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Re: Starrett-Jenks Morgan45 info-opinions

Good to hear from S&J 45 aficionados. We are re-building one in St Petersburg -- Salt Creek Marina where Charley Morgan had his office for many years. The S&J factory is just across the creek from here. The boat has been on the hard for most of her life so has no blisters or other problems and she is sound as a rock.

I heard from a local surveyor there that S&J actually bought (rescued) many of the original Morgan manufactured hulls which had been abandoned by their owners (a fairly common DIY occurence), trucked them back to S&J, rebranded and renumbered them and then sold them as S&J hulls. This guy knew Jenks personally and thought him something of a scoundrel who eventually did jail time. Or maybe its just another sea story. Any one else know anything about any of this?

In any event I also think she is a great boat. I have also heard that her proper designation, by Morgan, was Ocean Racer 45. Not to be confused with the Nelson-Marek 45, an entirely different animal, reversed transom and all.

We have removed the engine, lowered the salon floor in that area so its flush all the way for'd, filled the prop aperture and enlarged the rudder a bit -- original reports were that she was a bit squirrely down-wind.

Looking forward to hearing more from y'all.

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Re: Starrett-Jenks Morgan45 info-opinions

rablack:

Thanks so much for posting the S&J Documentation. We bought ours from Bill Browning, but did not think to ask if he had anything like that.

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Re: Starrett-Jenks Morgan45 info-opinions

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Good to hear from S&J 45 aficionados. We are re-building one in St Petersburg -- Salt Creek Marina where Charley Morgan had his office for many years. The S&J factory is just across the creek from here. The boat has been on the hard for most of her life so has no blisters or other problems and she is sound as a rock.

I heard from a local surveyor there that S&J actually bought (rescued) many of the original Morgan manufactured hulls which had been abandoned by their owners (a fairly common DIY occurence), trucked them back to S&J, rebranded and renumbered them and then sold them as S&J hulls. This guy knew Jenks personally and thought him something of a scoundrel who eventually did jail time. Or maybe its just another sea story. Any one else know anything about any of this?

In any event I also think she is a great boat, way more than the fat-assed 46 with which she is sometimes confused. I have also heard that her proper designation, by Morgan, was Ocean Racer 45. Not to be confused with the Nelson-Marek 45, an entirely different animal, reversed transom and all.

We have removed the engine, lowered the salon floor in that area so its flush all the way for'd, filled the prop aperture and enlarged the rudder a bit -- original reports were that she was a bit squirrely down-wind.

Looking forward to hearing more from y'all.

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Nice purchase, post up pics when you get a chance. I considered lowering the salon floor or raising the fwd floor. I chose not to lower the floor because I did not want to lessen the tank capacity. Somewhere in this thread are pics of my new custom tanks and toolbox install under the settee. I did enlarge my rudder and reshape the upper portion by removing a section from the hull and adding that area to the rudder.

This years projects are custom 316 stainless modular davit system incorporating the dinghy motor lift and wind generator pole. Dodger, cockpit sunshade;hartop vs. softtop. Bamboo whitewashed flooring inside. Finish SSB install. Custom solar panel mount...

Finally the weather here is to break into the 60's next week, time to get started.

s/v Talisman 1979 SJ45 #179
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