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Re: How do you feel about catamarans?

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......I really think they will overtake monohulls in popularity in the next 20 years.
Given the propensity for frugality in the sailing gene, I somehow doubt this will be the case. Although, I don't doubt they gain in popularity, particularly since the vast majority of sailors don't venture very far way.
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If, and that is a big if, the keel stays intact,...
why is this a big if, or even an if?
what has a roll and a possibly ripped rig have to do with the ballast keel dropping off? *headshake*
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...you are then in rough seas with a pendulum at the bottom of your already rolly platform which from the accounts I've read (get an early version of Coles "Heavy Weather Sailing") is an extremely nasty experience. And if holed, the leaner will certainly sink.
and now show me a boat that stays afloat for long if holed...

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Re: How do you feel about catamarans?

My philosophy is "Own small; rent big." Therefore I get all the sport sailing action I want close to home on my own small mono. However, when I go on a cruising vacation, I much prefer a cat for one reason: A charter fleet catamaran is WAY MORE total pleasure than a charter mono.

As for the way a boat looks, I can't understand why that is a consideration. I live the experience, not the gear. Anyway, prefer the looks of catamarans: naked or nearly naked women relaxing in repose, drinks and snacks handy, smiling faces of unquesy guests who've enjoyed a good sleep, unbruised shins and toes, easy swim access, etc. The best-looking-from-afar sailboats are, from my perspective, the least enjoyable for Florida/Caribbean/Bahamian cruising. I'm sure a transocean voyageur would have a different opinion.
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Re: How do you feel about catamarans?

I love watching them sail. The very definition of "fast". I also cannot take away from the sheer amount of room they have inside. It is rather awe inspiring really.

However, I own crab crushing full keelers. I do not even like the looks of the modern fin keeled boats.. so do not expect me to like the starship like looks of a cat.

Speaking of multihulls.. how come I rarely see Trimarans anymore?
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Speaking of multihulls.. how come I rarely see Trimarans anymore?
because they combine all the disadvantages of both worlds without any real advantage...
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Re: How do you feel about catamarans?

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it just shows what another smart guy here already said: load a multi for cruising, sail it on a long ocean passage and their speed advantage comes down to naught! cruising multis are good for bay hopping and... nothing else!
The descendants of the folk who used voyaging canoes to populate Polynesia will be sorry to hear that.

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The descendants of the folk who used voyaging canoes to populate Polynesia will be sorry to hear that.
i feel a lot more closer related to the vikingrs than to the polynesians...



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Re: How do you feel about catamarans?

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Paul you are right. They just don't look right to me. The only thing I do like is the space they seem to have. It's hard for me to understand why they so much faster? I'm in no hurry that know of for now.
Cruising cats aren't any faster on a whole. Look up the PHRF handicaps for them and compare them to monohulls.

Gemini 105mc catamaran has a base PHRF of about 177. This is slightly faster than a Catalina 30 and slightly slower than a C&C 30. It is slower than most 35-36' monohulls (which are still smaller than the Gemini) where a PHRF of 130-150 would be considered normal.

Racing cats are very light and have reduced wetted area and can point better than the cruising cats. They do get PHRFs that are very low, though it's my understanding that they fly downwind and still suffer on the upwind legs.
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I really think they will overtake monohulls in popularity in the next 20 years.
In the past many monohull sailors switched to powerboats as the "matured." (I refuse to age.)

I have a sense that some may switch to cats rather than powerboats.

My heart is still with monohulls, but there seems to be a growing market for cats and a cat instruction, so ....

I have taught on both sail cats and power cats. I love the room and the twin engines on a cat, but I prefer the feel of a monohull. Maybe I will get more of feel for the cat.

The company for whom I do most of my instruction is a cat dealer as well and they want me to get the instructor certification.
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