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03-08-2013 04:49 PM
Re: Whitby 42, Brewer 42, Brewer 12.8

Thanks. Useful.
03-08-2013 02:49 PM
Re: Whitby 42, Brewer 42, Brewer 12.8

All of these share lineage to Black Velvet II, one of Ted's all-time favorite personal designs.
03-07-2013 05:14 PM
Re: Whitby 42, Brewer 42, Brewer 12.8

Jeff - I have been looking at a 42 which has a double spreader cutter rig with a demountable inner forestay, Lewmar deck gear, a tall (60ft) rig and a deep fin keel. I suspect I am in love with this boat, although she is far removed from the boat I have owned for thirty years now. The below decks layout is passage making minded not liveaboard in port minded - what have I got here - fish, fowl or good red herring?
01-09-2007 07:53 PM
rleslie I singlehanded our Brewer 42 Ketch (same bottom config. as the 12.8)for five days in Novenber from Belhaven, NC to Georgetown, SC. Four of those days were strictly motoring on the ICW and one was a good day of sailing. I docked each night and had no problem what so ever. The sailing was the easy part. Due to the ketch rigging, each sail is easily handled by one person. I can't think of the term right now, but when you turn the wheel....count to three before anything happens, but at an actual displacement of 16 tons, that is to be expected. She is a cruiser, not a racer.

She points about 50-55 deg. with the board up, but does have some weather helm. When under power, she only backs to port, but that can be managed by getting her moving aft and putting the trans. in neutral, at that point she is fairly responsive to starbord as well as port.

My wife and I sailed her from Panama City, Fl thru the Keys and back up to the Pamlico Sound last winter and never had an issue with docking once we learned her characteristics (we won't talk about the first few times while we were still getting a feel for how she reacts). I firmly believe it all what you get used to.

If you need any more specific info let me know. We are presently in ST Augustine, so if you are in the area feel free to contact us.

01-09-2007 05:27 PM
Jeff_H I have single-handed a 12.8 for short periods during a watch. The original 12.8 cutters all came with easily stowable jibstays and electric winches, and most have high quality autoppilots, which made them a breeze to sail short handed.

The 12.8's are quite weatherly, pointing quite high (especially with thier centerboards down). The Whitby 42's and Brewer 42's (depending on their configuration) do not point all that well.

The 12.8's do not appear to have any bad manners under power and I have been vvery impressed with my father's ability to handle his in tight conditions. The Whitby 42's would be harder to handle in tight conditions since they are less manueverable.

01-09-2007 12:41 PM
giannboy Sorry...

When it comes time to park it at the dock
01-09-2007 12:28 PM
giannboy Does anyone have any experience/opinions about singlehanding one of these boats?

How well does it track?

How does it handle under power (i.e. when it comes time it at the dock)?

Thanks much

09-17-2006 07:39 PM
Jeff_H Its like I said above, a Brewer 42 was hybred with some combination of features and details normal to a Brewer 12.8 and a Whitby 42, without all of the features of either. It sounds like you have the underbody of a Brewer 12.8 with the ketch rig of a Whitby 42. You are right that some 42's had a sloop rig, all Brewer 12.8's were keel/centerboard cutters. I would am surprised that the mounted the oversized powered winches used on the 12.8's cutter rigs, for the smaller headsails of a ketch rigged version of the Brewer 42.

I have not heard of early Brewer 12.8's with blisters. I was a little disappointed to hear that your later Brewer 42 had a blister problem.

Its my understanding that there was a general upgrading of all of the systems on the original 12.8's, which well may have included electrical wiring as well. It would not surpise me if these systems were later downgraded on the 42's. That said, modern boats are generally designed for considerably more complex electrical systems than boats of that era and it may be that the system was undersized for the demands added to the boat after production.

09-16-2006 03:10 PM
Brewer 42

We own a Brewer 42 and it is identical to the 12.8. I have docked across from a 12.8 and we tried to determine what the differences were and could not find any. We have a double head-sail ketch, 4'-6" draft with swing keel, Brewer bite, a skeg-hung rudder, deck hardware the same size, etc.

Alot of the B42s were built as sloops. I can not speak to their characteristics.

We love our B42. We live aboard for 6 months per year and feel that we made the right choice. I disagree with one thing that Jeff H said about the electrical system. The original wiring sizes were one-two sizes too small. We removed all wiring and brought it up to current standards. This may be a symptom of boats built in that era.

Blisters: our's had numerous blisters. When I began repairing them, I found that they were in the gelcoat only and there was no damage to the FG.

09-13-2006 11:46 AM
brewer 12.8

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for that. Can I get some info on your dads boat. Pics and asking price would be great as well as some gear specs. This can be emailed to

many thanks, John
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