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03-20-2013 12:27 PM
billyruffn
Re: USA Visa

You might consider wintering over in Prince Rupert, BC. Don't know what the visa issues for you might be in Canada, but PR is no more than a week's cruise south of Juneau, so getting back to SE Alaska is not big deal.

The only thing I found difficult about entering Canada was that they were very strict on the quantity of adult beverages permitted. When I entered from Alaska I had just stocked up on wine and beer in Ketchitkan. I also had 8-10 bottles of rum in the bilge left over from the Caribbean. I was issued a "warning" and told to NEVER enter Canada again with so much booze on board. The discussion with customs on the booze issue took 20 minutes or so, whereas the discussion on the customs entry of the rifle (bear gun) I was carrying took 2 minutes. Go figure. In the post-9/11 environment I was pleased to see Canada had their priorities right.

Have a nice (long) voyage.
03-19-2013 01:33 PM
Minnewaska
Re: USA Visa

Correct, B1 visa is not to be used to be gainfully employed in the US, only to conduct business while visiting the US. I'm not an immigration guy, but have hired foreign nationals.
03-19-2013 11:38 AM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: USA Visa

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
Sounds like they could only stay longer on one of those "critical business" work visas. You know, like kangaroo kontrol in Juneau. I heard the infestation is absolutely horrible, and none of the locals have any idea of how to katch them.

G>
LOL!
I'm not sure if that's even the B1 part of the B1/B2 visa.
The B1 bit is for doing business meetings, buying and selling etc in the USA but I think for employment, either normally, or critical trades, its something else again.

We need an immigration official who sails! But I don't think they want all their rules and guidelines published because I think they want to have a discretionary ability to filter out people who look like dills.

I comb my hair and wear non cruiser clothes!
03-19-2013 11:05 AM
hellosailor
Re: USA Visa

Sounds like they could only stay longer on one of those "critical business" work visas. You know, like kangaroo kontrol in Juneau. I heard the infestation is absolutely horrible, and none of the locals have any idea of how to katch them.

If you think it can't happen...when I was in grade school local shop, jokingly, wrote "alligators in basement" on their electric bill. For YEARS after that, the meter readers would not go into the basement unaccompanied to read the meter. Because it said right there "alligators in basement" and they knew that was an urban myth but IT SAID SO RIGHT THERE.

IIRC Americans are limited to two years in Oz even if they are there for critical employment so as you say, limits are not unusual. Still, sometimes it pays to contact the folks who are petty diplomats, and sometimes these things can be changed from "usual" to "a bit better". Now that overseas phone calls cost two cents a minute instead of five dollars...it doesn't hurt so much to ask.

But first I'd call around in Juneau to get the buzz about the 'roo infestation going.
03-19-2013 10:44 AM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: USA Visa

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
Mark, are you saying that you didn't get 12 months, or that someone at DOS told you that it was not possible to get 12 months?

Was your cruising permit issued for 12 months? Assuming you brought your boat in?
Cruising permit is for 12 months but the humans only get 6 months at a time and I haven't heard anyone getting 2 x 6 months in 12 months.

If I had heard of it then all the Australians would have 12 months in the USA in their cruising year, wouldn't they?

The USA is not unusual in doing this. In fact the USA is more liberal than most other countries.... EU 3 months in 6 months, same with Turkey, Thailand has changed to a similar thing where visa trips over the boarder no longer suffice. Indonesia is the same with a penalty of boat forfeiture!

So getting 6 months in a block is good! Getting 12 months is not being offered anywhere that I can readily think of. Nine months is great!

So with the USA if you do 6 months in on a B2 (of the B1/B2 visa) visa then you will need to go out for a reasonable amount of time, more than 10 days (I think it says 14 days) before you go back in.... But when you get back in I doubt you'll get a full 6 months... Perhaps more like three months to take your time in the USA to 9 months in 20 months.

The only way I can think of to try to squeeze the Americans would be to stay as long as you can, do a international trip, and then go for a visa extension when back in the USA pleading to wait for the end of Hurricane season (etc). That's fine if you get it, but if you don't get it you must leave immediately.
BTW the visa extension takes 6 weeks and during that time you can stay if your entry time has expired. So one shouldn't apply for it too early! But the what happens if you are declined?

As a final point, one should never piss off the Damn Yankees because the USA is so good for flying into and out of when cruising, particularly for Australians, particularly when cruising the Caribbean and Central and South America... So if one plays silly buggers with the USA Immigration laws and you get the big red DECLINED stamp in your passport not only can't you use the USA to fly through but many other countries won't like you either! Excepts, Venuzalea, Cuba, Iran and North Korea......
03-18-2013 01:07 PM
hellosailor
Re: USA Visa

Mark, are you saying that you didn't get 12 months, or that someone at DOS told you that it was not possible to get 12 months?

Was your cruising permit issued for 12 months? Assuming you brought your boat in?
03-18-2013 12:21 PM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: USA Visa

If cruisers could get 12 months we would all have been there for 12 months.



Mark
03-18-2013 11:51 AM
hellosailor
Re: USA Visa

From what I found online, apparently three to six months is the default period, which is supposed to be set to match the purpose of your trip, i.e. to give you enough time to conclude your business or tour. And knowing our bureaucrats, they wouldn't let a dangerous Australian have anything besides "the usual" simply to protect themselves from being told "that's not what we do". The phrase here is "CYA" and no, that's not a nautical club.

Country Reciprocity Schedule

But our State Department indicates they have a one-year reciprocity with Australia on visa entries, which would appear to mean that you CAN be allowed one year on the first entry, if you can explain why you need one year, why you're not a threat, and the man stamping the passport knows how to count that high.

I'd suggest corresponding with our State Department, explaining that this is a recreational vessel and your travel simply is s l o w and to a remote area, and confirm that twelve months is both appropriate "from what I have read on your web site" (i.e. prompt them along) and suitable. If you can get that acknowledged, bring the letter or printouts in with you, and let the ICE guy see it and read it before they stamp you in. Assuming that you actually get acknowledgement that 12 months is acceptable.

That doesn't guarantee they will, but usually if these folks see something in writing "from upstairs" they will go along with it. Once anything has actually been STAMPED and put in writing--these guys are extremely reluctant to override or change it. If they indicate they don't do 12 months, ask politely to see a supervisor, again show him the papers. And of course, let the supervisor know Juneau is landlocked. Most Americans have no idea how things are in Alaska and the very idea of a state capital being that isolated is unthinkable.

Then when you get to Juneau, you can let them explain why the bronze outside is of three pelicans in a state where those don't fly, either.
03-18-2013 03:11 AM
svmidnightsun
Re: USA Visa

hellosailor visa type is b1/b2 and its a multi entry visa the form is a DS160 and when it is issued it will be good for 5 or 10 years. When we arrive in the US the customs officer will
issue a stamp for an allocated time ie 6 or 12 months but I believe they have only being giving 6 months at a time but I don't know this for sure.
Regards Paul
03-18-2013 01:36 AM
hellosailor
Re: USA Visa

That lost something in translation. Your visa is a 10-year multi-entry type but is only good for six months?

What type of visa is it? "Type" in the formal sense, i.e. type B-2 ?

They can get quite complicated, depending on whether a visa is required, what the purpose of your visit is...and without referencing a specific visa type, there's a good chance someone won't know what applies to the one that's been issued to you.
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