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03-19-2013 07:48 AM
Yorksailor
Re: Sail slide track won't allow quick reefing

Because I have trouble getting the reef cringle on the hook I run a line from the reef cringle to a cleat low on the mast. While it results in the cringle being a few inches higher it completely takes the slides out of the equation. This becomes even more important if you have second or third reef points.

Phil
03-19-2013 02:59 AM
PaulinVictoria
Re: Sail slide track won't allow quick reefing

I have a stopper, take it out, drop a couple of slugs, refit. Not the easiest when things are getting interesting, but it does work and means I can get the reefing cringle directly onto the reefing hook.
I carry a spare stopper in case the other one goes plop.
03-19-2013 02:56 AM
Rusty123
Re: Sail slide track won't allow quick reefing

Looks like there are ways to allow the slides to bypass the gate so they can stack at the boom. Here is one example:

US Spars Z190 Mast Gate Plates ~ Beneteau First 235
03-19-2013 02:39 AM
Rusty123
Re: Sail slide track won't allow quick reefing

Pretty good description of the issue, and some possible solutions here:

Second reef difficulty on E35/3 [Archive] - EY.o Information Exchange
03-19-2013 02:32 AM
Rusty123
Re: Sail slide track won't allow quick reefing

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What's odd is that my gate in the track is an opening at the side, so that the slides will pass the gate unimpeded, even when the gate is closed, and stack up from the height of the boom.

I think there is something wrong with the spring-loaded mechanism. It shouldn't block the track when closed.

Is there a Spirit 28 forum anywhere?
My track gate is basically a wide area in the slot. The retention mechanism (stopper) is a metal slide with a spring loaded pin that snaps into a hole in the bottom of the track, preventing access to the gate. So there's no way for the slides to bypass the gate with the stopper in place. Although if I pull out the stopper, it's possible to guide the slides past the gate so that they drop down to the boom. At which point the reefing jackline would probably provide enough slack to engage the horn.

So maybe that's how it's designed to be used. I suppose I could rig up a retention cable for the stopper so I wouldn't drop it over the side when I pull it out.

There are a few Spirit 28 sites out there, but they're pretty rudimentary -- not much in the way of forums. But I'll poke around and see what I can come up with.

Thanks for the help.
03-19-2013 02:24 AM
MarkSF
Re: Sail slide track won't allow quick reefing

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I thought about that approach, but wouldn't that 9 inches throw the alignment with the cringle on the clew end out of whack?
No, you just have a similarly longer length of reef clew line. Or, actually what happens is the boom rises a bit more than it would, which is no bad thing.
03-19-2013 02:20 AM
MarkSF
Re: Sail slide track won't allow quick reefing

What's odd is that my gate in the track is an opening at the side, so that the slides will pass the gate unimpeded, even when the gate is closed, and stack up from the height of the boom.

I think there is something wrong with the spring-loaded mechanism. It shouldn't block the track when closed.

Is there a Spirit 28 forum anywhere?
03-19-2013 02:13 AM
Rusty123
Re: Sail slide track won't allow quick reefing

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An alternative would be what my sailmaker did on my new sail - the reefing cringles at the luff have a 9 inch webbing strap passing through them, with a metal ring on each end. This 9 inches is sufficient to let the ring reach the horn.

It's a really good, and simple, solution.
I thought about that approach, but wouldn't that 9 inches throw the alignment with the cringle on the clew end out of whack?
03-19-2013 02:10 AM
Rusty123
Re: Sail slide track won't allow quick reefing

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Originally Posted by MarkSF View Post
I was looking for this, thread I started 2 years ago, see the helpful diagram :

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/seaman...questions.html
Nice -- thanks!

I think my setup would work fine if the slides could start stacking right above the boom. But with that slide lock sitting about a foot above the boom, those cringles don't have a chance to reach the reefing hook without removing the slides from the mast, even with the line.

But this information is helping me see the problem more clearly, so I'm sure I'll figure out a fix.
03-19-2013 02:07 AM
MarkSF
Re: Sail slide track won't allow quick reefing

An alternative would be what my sailmaker did on my new sail - the reefing cringles at the luff have a 9 inch webbing strap passing through them, with a metal ring on each end. This 9 inches is sufficient to let the ring reach the horn.

It's a really good, and simple, solution.
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