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03-29-2013 05:53 PM
deniseO30
Re: Hurth Transmission not Engaging

wooo lookie at dem prices! they's all over da place!
03-29-2013 02:38 PM
jimgo
Re: Hurth Transmission not Engaging

Thanks for the reminder! I'm just researching and trying to document my research a bit. I agree, buying anything at this point would be premature. The marina will be troubleshooting some time next week, then we'll figure out what to do.
03-29-2013 02:35 PM
PorFin
Re: Hurth Transmission not Engaging

Jim,

Just to raise the suggestion again --

Don't buy a new damper plate until you know your tranny is salvageable. If you wind up having to buy a new gearbox, then there's no guarantee that your brand new, freshly purchased damper plate will fit the new unit.

I've got my fingers crossed for you on this one.
03-29-2013 02:16 PM
jimgo
Re: Hurth Transmission not Engaging

Denise, here are the sources I've found so far for the damper:
Sailboat Supplies, Engine Parts and Boat Parts
Universal, Damper, 299156
Universal 299156 Sailboat Supplies, Engine Parts and Boat Parts
299156 DAMPER - Engines1
Westerbeke - 299156, Electrical, Generators - Parts, Generator Parts, Westerbeke-Damper #299156 - FirstChoiceMarine.com
Discount Marine Source - Westerbeke, Damper, 299156
DAMPER (WESTERBEKE P/N 299156) (#UJHW299156) - Performance Product Technologies


There's also an interesting discussion here:
SailboatOwners.com - Anyone Tried These Motor Mounts
Apparently most of the dampers were made by Sachs, but Universal actually tried a few others as well. As a result, you have to be careful...
03-29-2013 01:16 PM
deniseO30
Re: Hurth Transmission not Engaging

I think flex plates fail often and rattle allot! I've seen what they look like coming out. Shudder....Then.. where do people buy them?
Looking at the book (thanks! Por-Fin) I think a friend and I could rebuild mine if necessary. "someday"
03-29-2013 12:15 PM
jimgo
Re: Hurth Transmission not Engaging

I spoke with Ferry Point Marina, and they (understanably) can't fit me in today, so it will have to be some time next week. The service manager there, Mark, said that the only way for the damping plate to break is for there to have been a "catestrophic failure", which would have been caused either by the transmission seizing (which I think is a possibility since it was dry when I got aboard, but not as likely given that we can still feel it moving in and out of gear) or by the prop snagging on something. He didn't think the disc would just deteriorate due to age; I'm not so sure I agree with that.

Anyway, they will be troubleshooting the problem next week.

Interestingly, he mentioned that if the prop was fouled on something, that insurance may pick up the cost of the repair, minus any deductable (of course). That's not usually how my luck runs, though...
03-29-2013 11:16 AM
jimgo
Re: Hurth Transmission not Engaging

Yeah, I'll keep filling in info as I get it. It was frustrating, but at least we were able to get the starter working, and the engine started. That's a good start (pun intended)!
03-29-2013 09:03 AM
deniseO30
Re: Hurth Transmission not Engaging

I just did a catch up on this thread.. bummer Jim! Not very inspiring for my own and same engine trans that are in my boat! Please keep us posted! I'm keenly interested in part sources for this OLD stuff.
Fair... win... err, transmission!
03-29-2013 01:20 AM
jimgo
Re: Hurth Transmission not Engaging

It wasn't super wet, but the pieces from the damping plate were dark, like they had been covered in oil, and it looked like some of the teeth from the flywheel had oil on them. Not a lot, not super high up the flywheel, but on the teeth. There was some oil in the bilge, too, and my dad's idea was that perhaps the back seal had a slow leak that was causing there to be some oil inside the engine and inside the bilge.

Well, hopefully I'll learn more in the next few days.
03-29-2013 01:12 AM
jimgo
Re: Hurth Transmission not Engaging

Quote:
Originally Posted by chucklesR View Post
Meanwhile the boat looks sad at my pier
Not as sad as I did when we left your pier tonight!!!

But, we're making progress. Slow, painful, and expensive, but we're making progress. Thanks again for the slip!!
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