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04-07-2013 11:57 AM
P424
Re: Thougts on which is better topside paint...

My favorite was dropping my only roller in the sand when I stepped off the end of the scaffold. I learned its better to have enough scaffold to do one complete side at a time but the whole boat would be better. I did mine in Easypoxy. In Florida summer. I would start about nine to let the dew dry but I had to change the amount of thinner to compensate for the temp increase as the day went on or the paint wouldnt flow or smooth out correctly as it dried. I did 4 coats and it was starting to chalk up in 4 years of tropical weather. Never north of Georgia or south of Georgetown Ba. I could just imagine the fun of mixing a catalyst with the paint and thinner. I used an assistant once but it got to hot for her and finished that coat alone. I have seen the jobs done with 2 part paints and they are better and last longer. But white you have to study to see the difference from 20 ft.
04-07-2013 11:13 AM
CapnChuck
Re: Thougts on which is better topside paint...

We have painted both of our boats from the waterline to the masthead with Awlgrip. Once you get the hang of it, rolling and tipping is very easy. Awlgrip will last for about 10 years or more if properly cared for. It depends on where the boat spends most of its time. Brightside might last a couple of seasons and then you will have to do it all over again. Our experience is with Awgrip but Perfection would be a good choice too. Chuck
04-07-2013 12:15 AM
paulk
Re: Thougts on which is better topside paint...

The OP brings up a VERY important point without being aware of it: the difference between one and two-part polyurethanes. Awlgrip and Interlux Perfection are 2-part paints; you have to mix a base part with a catalyst, which sets them off to harden in a chemical reaction. Easypoxy and Brightsides are one-part paints. They don't require mixing parts together; you open the can, paint, and they cure by themselves. The Jamestown demonstration video above only shows the one-part paints. Their results are similar to what we found. The one-part paints look great... until they (easily) get scratched. One-part paint on our foredeck lasted three days before succumbing to myriad scratches, dings and generally looking miserable. A two-part paint that we applied instead to our whole deck and cabin top has now lasted 10 years, though it is starting to wear in high-chafe areas. Since prep for either one or two-part paint is essentially the same, it makes a LOT more sense to use two-part paint , unless you like to paint again, and again, and again.
04-06-2013 09:42 AM
kjzerr
Re: Thoughts on which is better topside paint...

Thank you to all who have responded. Your comments have been helpful.
04-03-2013 09:51 AM
CLOSECALL
Re: Thougts on which is better topside paint...

We just finished painting the topsides and decks on our 67 Pearson Wanderer. We rolled and tipped petit easypoxy. Everyone around the yard thought it looked great.
04-03-2013 07:37 AM
SimonV
Re: Thougts on which is better topside paint...

I used a good quality industrial 2 part polyurethane high opacity. In Oz it is Wattle Poly U 400. Applied with a roller, looks great from 20 foot away but up close a bit orange peel. Very tough for when the kids come out in their wood canoes and bash into you topsides selling fruit.
04-02-2013 10:52 PM
kjzerr
Re: Thougts on which is better topside paint...

I'm having to adjust to the fact that a boat's finish is not like a car's.
04-02-2013 10:16 PM
tommays
Re: Thougts on which is better topside paint...

You can't think of a boat like you would a car And Alwgrip is freaking rugged paint

In a cars case there are generally thousands of units done with a very controlled color and the body panels gaps at the doors and fenders are the saving grace as they give clean transitions to hide tiny inperfections in a repiar

On a boat the topside is ONE GIANT panel with no place to hide even the most subtle color change a few years down the road from fading or anything less than a flawless blend

To be honest a think i could repair a good size scratch wetsand one side of the hull and lay down a fresh coat of awlgrip faster then I could try and blend it ?


If you do a big dock rash on the topsides it's just not a bit of body work and a quick trip in the spray booth


Awlcraft 2000 is the somewhat repaireable version of the paint because it can be wet sanded and buffed to do some blending BUT it is spray only

Even Dark colors of gelcoat which is far more repiar friendly take and incredible level of skill to match.
04-02-2013 09:35 PM
kjzerr
Re: Thougts on which is better topside paint...

A few reviews that I've read regarding Perfection imply that there is no way to fix an error (runs, scratches, etc). If you try to fix a blemish it stands out. Does anyone have knowledge of this?

Perfection seems to be the most durable and with a lasting shine, but i'd like to be able to fix a scratch down the road.
03-31-2013 12:13 AM
bljones
Re: Thougts on which is better topside paint...

I agree with TomMays. Perfection is designed to be R&T'd by amateurs, AwlGrip is aimed at the pro market.

Brightsaide is a little more forgiving, to apply, easier to repair in the water, but doesn't have as durable a shine or have the same longevity as Perfection.

Airless sprayers are barely fine, if you are perfectly okay with spending the time and money to tarp and tent the area and the time and money to do a LOT of sanding to deal with the inevitable orangepeel finish.
Roll and tip is best done with two or more people, one rolling, one tipping, and a squirt bottle of thinner/reducer always at hand to keep the paint in the roller pan at the right viscosity- You can get great results if you don't panic and if you prep and prime the surface well.

Expect the unexpected, like spending at least $100 on sandpaper. figure on spending a week-10 days ot properly prep the boat minimum, and 2-4 days to apply the paint, 1-2 coats per day with necessary sanding as required.
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