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04-19-2013 03:58 PM
jimgo
Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
Canvas shops have the equip to bend ss piping.
Excellent recommendation, thank you! There's one at the new marina, if we ever get there; I'll start with them if I go forward.

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
From the looks of the pic, however, I don't really see much advantage to do this. Unless you bump out the pushpit, you're just elevating the passenger a few inches above the current cockpit seat. Will the boom come into play? I think fabricating good cushions and backrests is the way to go. JMO.
That's why I want to spend more time aboard before I make any commitments. I think the seat would wind up being at least 8" above the cockpit seats, and probably closer to a foot. But I need to get back aboard to figure that out.
04-19-2013 02:33 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)

Canvas shops have the equip to bend ss piping. You may check there for comparative pricing to an ss fabricator. Something tells me the canvas shop would be less expensive, since they deal with piping every day, but don't know that.

From the looks of the pic, however, I don't really see much advantage to do this. Unless you bump out the pushpit, you're just elevating the passenger a few inches above the current cockpit seat. Will the boom come into play? I think fabricating good cushions and backrests is the way to go. JMO.
04-19-2013 12:37 PM
jimgo
Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)

We're currently in Rock Hall. There probably will be places in that area where I could get an estimate. I think I want to wait and play with the boat first, though, before I sink any more money into her.

To your point about totaling, yes, I agree. My wife and I will have to discuss how to proceed.
04-19-2013 12:34 PM
JimMcGee
Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)

As for keeping the boys in their seats - you've never heard of duct tape?
04-19-2013 12:30 PM
JimMcGee
Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)

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Originally Posted by jimgo View Post
Jim, sorry, I forgot to reply to your question about the status of the boat. She's still at the marina. They hope to have an estimate of the cost to disassemble (and thus determine whether there is an insurance claim here) by next week. Of course, that's what they said last week, too. But at least they aren't charging me storage fees! And I know they are busy; it's frustrating, but understandable. The marina has said many times that I am welcome to come down and make myself at home while the boat is there. I'm leery to do too much, though; if she's going to be totaled, I don't want to expend any additional energy or cost on her. So, for now I'm focusing on further rehabbing the Albacore that's in my driveway.
A couple of thoughts come to mind. If she's totaled, nothing says you can't buy her back from the insurance company after you're paid off and do the work yourself. She appears to be a solid boat worth saving.

Also you're a bit north of Annapolis if I remember correctly (though not sure how far north). There have got to be some local fabricators there who could give you an estimate on something like this. I can't imagine you'd be the first to ask.
04-19-2013 11:52 AM
jimgo
Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)

Jim, sorry, I forgot to reply to your question about the status of the boat. She's still at the marina. They hope to have an estimate of the cost to disassemble (and thus determine whether there is an insurance claim here) by next week. Of course, that's what they said last week, too. But at least they aren't charging me storage fees! And I know they are busy; it's frustrating, but understandable. The marina has said many times that I am welcome to come down and make myself at home while the boat is there. I'm leery to do too much, though; if she's going to be totaled, I don't want to expend any additional energy or cost on her. So, for now I'm focusing on further rehabbing the Albacore that's in my driveway.
04-19-2013 11:47 AM
jimgo
Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)

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Originally Posted by denverd0n View Post
Your boys must be unusual. Reminds me of something a friend told me years ago...

"When my son was little," she said, "we were so excited when he first learned how to walk and how to talk. Now that he's 5 years old, I just wish he would sit down and shut up."

LOL...they do have their days, but I really enjoy my kids. They are both very smart, and they each see things differently from each other, and from us, so I like having them around and hearing their thoughts. I travel 4-6 weeks out of the year for work, plus I wind up working late some nights, and have stuff to do around the house (as does everyone). As a result, I don't get to spend as much quality time with them as I'd like, especially while they are still young. Once they are teens, my opinion may change, and I may look for a job that allows me to travel more!
04-19-2013 11:42 AM
jimgo
Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)

Here are a few other pictures of the transom area. Sorry, when I took them I wasn't taking the pics with this thread in mind! Most were also taken before the boat was mine, so please excuse the mess!





04-19-2013 11:36 AM
denverd0n
Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)

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I have two boys, 7 and almost 5, and those would be fun places for them to sit.
Your boys must be unusual. Reminds me of something a friend told me years ago...

"When my son was little," she said, "we were so excited when he first learned how to walk and how to talk. Now that he's 5 years old, I just wish he would sit down and shut up."

04-19-2013 11:34 AM
jimgo
Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)

Jim,
I've been coveting those stern perch seats ever since I first saw them. I'm afraid of what the fabricator would charge for the rails, but it's probably a good idea to price it out. In the end, it would probably look better and be more functional than anything I can DIY. Plus, the idea of pushing them back farther, so they hang out over the transom, is a good one. That would get the seat, and the passenger in it, farther out of the way. I'll just have to make sure it doesn't hit the davvit.

Minne, your point about it being an esposed position is a very good one. That was one of the reasons I thought adding three additional, vertical supports to the rail would be good. It would help close off that space a bit, making it harder for them to fall through. I'd probably also put netting or something up there, too, for additional safety. I know not to rely on the netting, but still, it's better to have it than to not, IMHO.

Chuck, I like the hinged idea. I'll have to noodle on that some more. If I can put a hinged/folding support leg on the seat, that would allow it to flip up out of the way, thereby addressing Minne and Jim's concerns, while avoiding the cost of fabing a new rail.

In the end, I'll have to price out everything, and look at how it would work functionally, before I do anything. If the cost of doing something (properly) with the existing rail approaches the cost of just having a new rail created, then I'd probably go in that direction. I want to split the rail already, anyway, to make it easier to get on an off the boat via the stern ladder.

Please keep the ideas and suggestions coming! I really appreciate all the feedback.
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