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04-23-2013 12:09 PM
svHyLyte
Re: Cordage wrap on helm wheel

[QUOTE=msmith10;1020231]I believe the name of that is a French Coxcomb, or French Whipping, although the latter has connotations that are best left to other forums (or is it fori?)[/QUOTE

That may be the name of the style. The knot is just a series of repeated Clove Hitches.
04-23-2013 11:33 AM
msmith10
Re: Cordage wrap on helm wheel

I believe the name of that is a French Coxcomb, or French Whipping, although the latter has connotations that are best left to other forums (or is it fori?)
04-23-2013 10:41 AM
svHyLyte
Re: Cordage wrap on helm wheel

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Originally Posted by tdw View Post
I did this to the wheel on Raven and loved it. Indeed I'd rather have this than leather though I'm not about to strip of the leather in order to redo the thing in cord.

The final result was a bit iffy when compared to result obtained by someone who knows what they are doing but for a first time effort I was pretty pleased. I did it in stages over two or three weekends. Dirt is without doubt the biggest problem. I didn't redo the wee bit there as original centre mark. One has to admit it discoloured somewhat. Mind you the original was there for twenty years. After six years my handiwork still looked relatively clean.


That is the same wrap as I tried to describe in my earlier post, and nicely done. The use of ScotchGuard will minimize the degree to which the material collects dirt. It is a time consuming process however.
04-23-2013 08:49 AM
pdqaltair
Re: Cordage wrap on helm wheel

Believe it of not, I wrapped mine with hardware store 1/4-inch white polymer blend clothes line--the suff that comes in a cheap 50-foot hank. That was 4 years ago and it's going strong. I was in a hurry because I was delivering the boat home several day over Christmas break and it was cold. I wasn't very sure how I would like it, so I did something easy... and it became perminant.

Fancy knots? To me--and hands, tastes and wheels differ--the choachwhipping makes for a very uncomfortable and rough surface. Pretty though. I chose a shooth wrap, done buy working it tight with rubber-faced gloves. It took about 1 hour and should last about 8 years (granted my helm is protected and I only sail about 40 days each year). I also did some hand rails (verticals and some inside--not the cabin top rails) for better grip.

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04-23-2013 08:23 AM
msmith10
Re: Cordage wrap on helm wheel

I used the suede, Minne. Of course, here in Ohio most of our UV exposure comes from medical procedures and neon lights, but it looks like new after 5 years. I do cover it with a pedestal cover when I'm not on the boat and I remove the wheel when it's on the hard.
I bought from boatleather.com on special at the Annapolis show and it was considerably cheaper than Edson. Perfect fit and I think it's thicker leather. I bought the foam padded one, which is much envied at my marina and has a great feel. I made one change to the installation instructions: about every 6-8" I tied off the stitching so if it broke somewhere I wouldn't have to redo the whole wheel.
04-23-2013 07:13 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Cordage wrap on helm wheel

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Originally Posted by msmith10 View Post
I've had both. Prefer the leather personally. Used boatleather.com padded kit, easy job, great fit. Took a couple of nights in front of the tv in the winter.
We may have a winner here. Doing this mid-summer might be risky, as I would be in tough shape, if I didn't get it done before the next scheduled cast off.

How is the leather holding up to the UV? That's what has killed the one I have. (edit: did you use smooth or suede?)
04-23-2013 01:00 AM
msmith10
Re: Cordage wrap on helm wheel

I've had both. Prefer the leather personally. Used boatleather.com padded kit, easy job, great fit. Took a couple of nights in front of the tv in the winter.
04-23-2013 12:08 AM
Azzarac
Re: Cordage wrap on helm wheel

I am currently undertaking (attempting to undertake...) coachwhipping Chameleon's wheel with Mason's line which should last many years. The larger paracord tends to leave open spaces allowing the wheel to show through. I got the idea from an article in the current issue of Good Old Boat. http://goodoldboat.com/promo_pdfs/Mar13_Promo.pdf I have read one report where salt spray accumulated on someone's unspecified cordage causing it to become abrasive to the hands. Since I sail freshwater, I'm not terribly concerned but it may be a factor for some. I'll post some pictures when (if) I get it done. Good luck!
04-22-2013 11:10 PM
Alex W
Re: Cordage wrap on helm wheel

I can see how the wrong cord would make you want to removal it all. I was helping a friend on his boat today and the cord on his wheel (which I think is the netting stuff) felt a lot rougher than the fine cord on my wheel (it looks a lot like tdw's wheel...nice job!).

I'd look for something smooth and not white.
04-22-2013 10:31 PM
chucklesR
Re: Cordage wrap on helm wheel



Having said that, here's mine.


Only the actual wheel remains, since taking this picture in Nov 13, I've replaced the helm 'table', pedestal guard, instruments etc.
The wheel will get stripped, varnished, and partially wrapped (1/4's) this summer.
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