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07-19-2013 05:44 PM
SailingChance
Re: Young cruisers

I'm 29 and my boyfriend is 31. We both quit our jobs back in NYC last November to sail. How we've done is we SAVED. Every penny we had we saved in order to take an extended sabbatical. We're young so there is no way we're going to be able to keep up this lifestyle forever, but again we're young so we can still get back in to the working world. We too are picking up boat work jobs here and there but this is mostly because we saved before we left.

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07-19-2013 04:17 PM
Alex W
Re: Young cruisers

I know you were asking the long term cruisers, but I'm just a short term one. With 5 weeks of vacation per year I can spend 2 weeks a year cruising. So far I've only done things near home waters, but next year I think I'll charter to expand my range.

This year I'm taking a long (13 week) leave from work and doing a lot more cruising in our local PNW waters.

If you do want to go for years then I'd suggest saving and not carrying debt. I don't like to carry debt myself and could afford to leave for a few years right now. I'm saving for an earlier retirement though, then I can do longer cruising.
07-19-2013 02:56 PM
mark2gmtrans
Re: Young cruisers

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Originally Posted by Capt Len View Post
Helps to figure out if you're running towards a dream or running from a nightmare or just a bit of indecisive insomnia .At 70, I don't dream of more big ocean cruising but my vessel still supports me to the tune of 80 to 100 grand a year sailing the Salish Sea so I don't feel I need to run and I sleep pretty good apart from the arthritis. Youngins should know that once you've tried elderly ,you'll never go back.
But you might if you could once in a while LOL
07-19-2013 02:37 PM
Capt Len
Re: Young cruisers

Helps to figure out if you're running towards a dream or running from a nightmare or just a bit of indecisive insomnia .At 70, I don't dream of more big ocean cruising but my vessel still supports me to the tune of 80 to 100 grand a year sailing the Salish Sea (threehoursail dotcom ) so I don't feel I need to run and I sleep pretty good apart from the arthritis. Youngins should know that once you've tried elderly ,you'll never go back.
07-19-2013 12:29 PM
mark2gmtrans
Re: Young cruisers

I reread this again, because it is something near and dear t my heart, though I am not sure I would be called young in anyone's thinking, I am not yet old either. The day you make the decision, and know in your heart that nothing is going to hold you back you begin to make a new set of friends, people who will fit into your new lifestyle. Cruising is just that, it is a way of life, and others probably do not easily understand it.

As a younger man I drove long haul semi trucks over the road here in the states, and back then you would be expected to stay gone away from home for no less than 45 days at a time, and 60-90 was probably average. Almost everyone I knew well enough to say they were friends were driving, or dispatching or family of drivers. The work paid very well, I was earning over $50,000.00 a year in 1986, most lawyers did well to earn that much back then. The other thing was that almost all of the other men, and eventually myself, got divorced. Our wives were not in the same lifestyle we were in, they could not understand that the road literally called to us, after three days at home we were ready to go back to work. Three days out of 45-90 days does not a good marriage make. At the time husband and wife teams were unheard of, women rarely drove trucks, the companies would not hire them, and there was a reason for it, women just could not make it work most of the time.

Now women drive, they run solo, and they run in teams with their husband or boyfriend. They could always have done the work, but the lifestyle was what kept them away. Now most companies do not keep a driver out more than about 21 days at a time, and they get a week off usually. Cruising is a very similar situation, your gf or wife is not going to like it if you stay out of contact with family for three to six months at a time, but today we have Skype, Yahoo, and other things to allow us to use video chat for free. We have Pactor email services, and radios that we can send messages on, as well as satellite phones and SPOT trackers. We can communicate far better and we can actually live our lives far from other family members while still maintaining a feeling of closeness to them. If someone becomes ill, or some family emergency pops up, we can make port and fly home, if we have the money. If we do not have the money we can at least send flowers or call or Skype with the family to help us feel closer in times of need.

What you have to do if you want to be a cruiser is decide to make it your life. There really is no knee deep way to cruise in blue water. You have to commit to it, you have to plan to educate your own children, to make sure you have money for health and dental issues. You must train every member of your crew from one to 101 on how to help take care of the boat, and one another. Most of all you have to have a spirit in you that craves exploration, and investigation of new and curious places and people. You have to desire to go more than you desire to stay and then you will find that selling the crap you thought you were so attached to and pulling up stakes and going is far more natural than staying.

I will say it again, if the company that I have my current contract with were to come to me tomorrow and say they were going to pay the penalty for early termination of our deal, I would leave within a couple of weeks. I would go out buy one of the top ten boats I am looking at right now and get on it and start making the preparations to leave as soon as was humanly possible. I might be nervous about some things, but not about actually going, unless you call being about to explode with anticipation and excitement being nervous.

I am willing to bet that there are hundreds on here in similar situations, maybe not exactly the same but pretty close. I may need a chainsaw to cut the land ties I have, but I have that saw in its case in my garage here, and it has gas in it.

Mark
07-19-2013 11:08 AM
chucklesR
Re: Young cruisers

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Originally Posted by SeaSalt View Post
Ahh..I think you even posted on a topic I made a while back about 20 year service in yhe Navy and being able to retire when I'm around 40..Still motivated to do that and start living aboard as soon as I retire..Did you do anymore working once you retired at 39 to this day?
I've worked as a data-demigod for the past 13 years (retired in 2000), good pay, spent most for a while catching up with the Jones. Then got the bug to cruise, downsized in 2009 and started the path to the thorny path.
07-19-2013 09:45 AM
wingNwing
Re: Young cruisers

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Originally Posted by FirstCandC View Post
Let's face it, a lot of us here could probably make it financially, because we are rabid enough to sacrifice cars, homes, toys, etc. to make it work.

But what do you do if you have a sick family member? Put them in a home? When I was young I never envisioned taking care of my parents or in-laws.

Or what about a spouse that has supported you throughout, but gets cold feet as you get closer to The Big Day?

Do you just leave it all behind?
Or, perhaps you go for a modified version of the dream. It's called "compromise" and unfortunately life is full of them. Maybe you stay coastal where you can be with the family when needed instead of ocean-crossing. Maybe you sail/cruise for 4-6 months each year, then go back to your house for the rest of the year. Maybe you start off living aboard in a marina where you have access to land supports (like a car, and a community) to acclimate the hesitant spouse. Living a scaled-back dream is far better than running that treadmill. Think of those obstacles as hurdles and not brick walls.
07-18-2013 07:11 PM
SeaSalt
Re: Young cruisers

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Originally Posted by chucklesR View Post
I retired from the Navy at 39, could have gone then but wasn't sailing at that point.
Now that I'm sailing and in my early 50's I'll be going soon.
Ahh..I think you even posted on a topic I made a while back about 20 year service in yhe Navy and being able to retire when I'm around 40..Still motivated to do that and start living aboard as soon as I retire..Did you do anymore working once you retired at 39 to this day?
07-12-2013 08:10 PM
mark2gmtrans
Re: Young cruisers

I was 28 years old the first time I got on a sailboat that was going to do a circumnavigation, the boat belonged to a friend and there were four of us. We left Port Isabel, Texas and went South, as did the trip. I got off the boat in Qunitana Roo state in Mexico and found a ride back to Laredo. I went back to work and then again a few years later another opportunity to crew on a circumnavigation came up, I planned and then left my job and got on the boat. We cruised the coast all the way down to Brazil, and we would have come back North and crossed through the canal and gone to the Marquesas, but my friend who owned the boat lost his mother and father and one brother in a small plane crash. He and his wife got on a plane and flew home, while myself and two others brought the boat back to Texas. I went back to work, and things happened, and I have not gone back to sea, YET.

Last year I made a vow to myself, and I always keep those, that I would work this contract I am on right now to its end, and then I am selling the last of my crap and leaving. I got rid of my huge house already, several vehicles, and half of a business. The only reason I am not already on the boat is because I signed a contract, and I do not break my word, but the contract is up before this time next year and I will be gone when it is over.

I am saying all of this to say that no matter what your age is, the thing that is required to sail is to commit to sailing, well that and a boat. You can work out the details on fuel, food, and silly stuff like that once you set your mind to it.
07-12-2013 05:50 PM
diverchick71
Re: Young cruisers

Just read "Living on the Margin" by Patrick Schulte of "Bumfuzzle" fame. He was successful in the markets at a young age so he had that advantage, but it's his smarts and attitude that keeps him and his family cruising. The book is about trading "slacker style" which wouldn't be for everyone. But what he TRULY brought home was how much we SPEND living and working. Add up your cars, insurance, meals out, work clothes, and then ridiculous US taxation rates for us hard-working wage earners. My boyfriend and I decided we spend about 60% of our income just to have that job. Then add everything else up. It really is the decision. I'm struggling with that as well. I'm in my 40's now, and didn't go when my kids were younger (We did go spend a couple years in Costa Rica) I'm looking at cruising now and my kids (high school and college age) say, "Man why didn't you do that when we were younger??"
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