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05-03-2013 10:40 PM
ebs001
Re: E-Mail while crusing

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Originally Posted by SVAuspicious View Post
That would be grib files, not grin files. The GFS computer model that is used to generate gribs has an issue. For those inclined to mathematics, it assumes a continuous second derivative over the pressure surface. The impact is that gribs do not show fronts. Fronts are where weather is often unpleasant and significant wind shifts occur.

You can still call home over SSB radio. I do quite regularly on both the ham bands (bless the MMSN) and commercial bands (thank you Shipcom).



The Delorme inReach is not life safety equipment. Just ask Delorme. It is no substitute for an EPIRB.
Yes Grib not Grin

You may be able to call home on your SSB and or HAM but I have a great deal of difficulty understanding what is being said a lot of the time because my hearing is not that good. My wife has more of a problem and for our mothers it would be absolutely impossible.

I agree that the Delorme is no substitute for an EPIRB

SSB/HAM will be around for sometime to come but as satellite communication improves both in cost and available information it is just a matter of time before it takes over communication at sea just as GPS has taken over from sextants.
05-03-2013 11:16 AM
SVAuspicious
Re: E-Mail while crusing

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Originally Posted by ebs001 View Post
I spoke to a fellow about a month ago who had just completed a solo circumnavigation of the world and he told me he got his weather by downloading grin files via his satphone. It also meant he had voice communication from wherever he was back home just by dialling like a cellphone.
That would be grib files, not grin files. The GFS computer model that is used to generate gribs has an issue. For those inclined to mathematics, it assumes a continuous second derivative over the pressure surface. The impact is that gribs do not show fronts. Fronts are where weather is often unpleasant and significant wind shifts occur.

You can still call home over SSB radio. I do quite regularly on both the ham bands (bless the MMSN) and commercial bands (thank you Shipcom).

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Originally Posted by ebs001 View Post
With the advent of Delorme inReach Satellite Communicator using the Iridium network texting, tracking and SOS could never be better nor easier and at a fraction of the cost. Hardware $250 and plans from $10 per month.
The Delorme inReach is not life safety equipment. Just ask Delorme. It is no substitute for an EPIRB.
05-02-2013 11:21 PM
SimonV
Re: E-Mail while crusing

You can pick up a Pactor 2e or 2usb for less the $500 if you want to speed things up a bit buy a Pactor 3 license for @$120. I have the 2e and have no problems anywhere.
05-02-2013 10:58 PM
El Rubio
Re: E-Mail while crusing

As an amateur radio operator, I have used Winmor, the free soundcard digital program for accessing Winlink email. It doesn't have the speeds of PACTOR 3, but is free and does work. I used to maintain a Winlink gateway on VHF at my home, but it didn't get much use besides me and another ham or two. Amateur radio also offers the ability to have a conversation with someone, even if just for conversation. Most hams will forward a message for you too. There are other lowbandwidth modes that will get through when other high bandwidth modes like voice or pactor can't. It's effective for emergency communications for the same reasons, but mainly, it's fun. A license is much easier than it used to be and no longer requires that you learn to copy morse code. I wouldn't suggest it be the only communications aboard, but it is the most versatile.
05-02-2013 10:20 PM
ebs001
Re: E-Mail while crusing

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Originally Posted by SVAuspicious View Post
See my post #12 in this thread. You are best served to use a Signalink USB external sound card (about $100US). YOU WILL NEED A GENERAL CLASS HAM LICENSE OR BETTER TO USE WINLINK. For reciprocity in Europe and most of the Far East you'll need an Extra Class license.



Right. Keep up with changes. The RV crowd have this locked. Even in the US the Verizon lead is fading. Outside the US you are much better off with the GSM compatibility AT&T offers - you'll want an unlocked data card.



We all make our own choices. I wouldn't go offshore without SSB. Satphones are for those with elderly parents, other dependents, or business interests that require direct dial. Otherwise the performance and safety support of SSB dominates.

I spoke to a fellow about a month ago who had just completed a solo circumnavigation of the world and he told me he got his weather by downloading grin files via his satphone. It also meant he had voice communication from wherever he was back home just by dialling like a cellphone.

With the advent of Delorme inReach Satellite Communicator using the Iridium network texting, tracking and SOS could never be better nor easier and at a fraction of the cost. Hardware $250 and plans from $10 per month.

Close to shore I have found fewer and fewer free and unlocked wifi stations. It's pretty much pay only now.
05-02-2013 09:10 PM
zeehag
Re: E-Mail while crusing

i have found wifi readily available and free, or very low fee.
i also have banda ancha for when i cannot get wifi.

all this for less than 500 pesos for 2 gigabytes plus a free 1 because they like my money. only thing i cannot get done is picture loading and sending and posting. oh well.....

when i am at sea--i show momma where i am with spot tracker--my brother makes a picture of the map for her so she can see where i am. i will not email at sea. not necessary for me to do that.
computer is for when i am in port somewhere.
05-02-2013 07:24 PM
SVAuspicious
Re: E-Mail while crusing

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Originally Posted by night0wl View Post
False. There is now software that you can use software to modulate and plug into SSB. Pactor is faster for sure though...but worth the big money??? hmm, not so much. Research Winmor
See my post #12 in this thread. You are best served to use a Signalink USB external sound card (about $100US). YOU WILL NEED A GENERAL CLASS HAM LICENSE OR BETTER TO USE WINLINK. For reciprocity in Europe and most of the Far East you'll need an Extra Class license.

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Originally Posted by MarioG View Post
We use an aircard, so anywhere a cell phone works our air card does. Verizon works well, Clear only seems to work around bigger cities.
Right. Keep up with changes. The RV crowd have this locked. Even in the US the Verizon lead is fading. Outside the US you are much better off with the GSM compatibility AT&T offers - you'll want an unlocked data card.

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Originally Posted by TQA View Post
If I was making a long offshore passage I would rent a Sat phone for the passage.
We all make our own choices. I wouldn't go offshore without SSB. Satphones are for those with elderly parents, other dependents, or business interests that require direct dial. Otherwise the performance and safety support of SSB dominates.
05-02-2013 05:22 PM
TQA
Re: E-Mail while crusing

Wifi is almost always available in port FOC in bars and sometimes in anchorages and broadcast to many anchorages for a fee. I am in Bequia on HOTHOTHOTSPOT service at 50 $ US a month just now using an Alfa 36H booster and am getting 5 bars at about 1/2 mile.

If I was making a long offshore passage I would rent a Sat phone for the passage.
05-02-2013 11:32 AM
MarioG
Re: E-Mail while crusing

We use an aircard, so anywhere a cell phone works our air card does. Verizon works well, Clear only seems to work around bigger cities.
05-02-2013 12:28 AM
night0wl
Re: E-Mail while crusing

Quote:
Originally Posted by ebs001 View Post
To send and receive email via SSB you also need Pactor
False. There is now software that you can use software to modulate and plug into SSB. Pactor is faster for sure though...but worth the big money??? hmm, not so much. Research Winmor
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