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05-03-2013 09:53 PM
bobperry
Re: '83 Jason 35 hull thickness???

Kwalt:
Sure, I love Ted too but that Jason didn't balance for squat. Ted should really have known better. But he does now and he will help. I owe Ted a lot. Nothing ever changes that.
05-03-2013 08:55 PM
kwaltersmi
Re: '83 Jason 35 hull thickness???

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Originally Posted by Jace2 View Post
By the way, I called and talked to the man himself, Mr. Ted Brewer. He was very kind but said he'd have to go back and get out the original specs to find out the hull thickness. He also invited me to call him back about building a bow sprit, so I'm appreciative of that.
Ted has always been very approachable and willing to share his perspective when I've asked for it too. I have a ton of respect for the guy.

The Jason design just so happens to be one of my favorite Brewer designs, though there are plenty of others that are more "classic Brewer". Guess I'm a sucker for double-enders since Bob's Baba 30 is another of my all time favorites.
05-03-2013 08:53 PM
Jace2
Re: '83 Jason 35 hull thickness???

Hey, Faster, thanks. You're probably right on the Coronado.

Your friends have a Jason 35? That's great. I'd like to get in touch with them to ask some questions, if they would be willing to email me. They can reach me at my website address below, then I'll give them my home email.

If they'd rather not, I understand. No problem. Thanks.
05-03-2013 08:48 PM
Faster
Re: '83 Jason 35 hull thickness???

I agree with Bob that the Coronado's hull will NOT be an inch thick or anywhere near it. - certainly not in the topsides. Adding layers of glass on speculation would likely be a massive waste of time and materials, not to mention the difficulty unless it's a bare hull and deck at this point.

If it is rough enough to move the mast I think that's a great idea, and adding the sprit will improve things too but also add eternally to your moorage bill...

Sounds like a project.. we have friends with a very nice Jason 35.. they love it, it's been across the Pacific and back.
05-03-2013 08:26 PM
Jace2
Re: '83 Jason 35 hull thickness???

What, show you pics of the bot Denise and have all you ship-stealers take her way from me?

Kidding. Sure, got some pics, but I'll have to search for them.

I was thinking of doing the layers on the inside. Probably won't, though. Good or bad, I'll most likely take the hull as it is. Lazy, you know.

Yeah, bob, when the time comes for getting sails for her, I'll want to do that.
Lots, LOTS of work to do before that. Thanks.
05-03-2013 06:14 PM
bobperry
Re: '83 Jason 35 hull thickness???

Jace:
Being green is fine. You'll get a lot of help here.

As I recall the early Coronados were chopper gun laminates so there was no real control over hull thickness other than the skill of the gun operator and the amount he had drunk the night before. But I have never heard of a 25'er being laid up an inch thick.

Ted's a great guy and he will give you good advice. He's always given me good advice.
As fpor more sail area: You could look for a SA/D of around 18.5 for that boat. That would be plenty. I'm sure if you Google "Sail Area to Displacement ratio" you can find a quick explanation of that number.
05-03-2013 06:06 PM
Jace2
Re: '83 Jason 35 hull thickness???

Yes, thanks, bob, 'add more sail area.' (kinda' green, here)

The Coronado, well, that's what I read. A veritable 'icebreaker' it said. Between and inch and an inch and a quarter.

Yeah, guess I'll have to do some serious thinking about the mast and the bow sprit.

Thanks, guy (and gals) for the advice and comments. They help much.
05-03-2013 05:47 PM
deniseO30
Re: '83 Jason 35 hull thickness???

Adding layers of glass would not help unless it's applied inside the hull. Even badly decomposed hulls only get shaved with a gel coat plane then maybe one layer over the newly fair hull. You going to share some photos of this mysterious boat Jace?
05-03-2013 05:13 PM
bobperry
Re: '83 Jason 35 hull thickness???

The Valiant 40 is 3/8" thick at the sheer. They haven't been falling apart for the last 39 years. Coronado 25 an inch thick? That is crazy. I'd have to see it to believe it.

Best to do both, move the mast forward and add the sprit. But you can't just guess at it. Work with Ted to do it right. "Wind catching ability"? Now you're getting technical with me Never heard of that term before. If you mean "add more sail area" then yes.
05-03-2013 05:08 PM
Jace2
Re: '83 Jason 35 hull thickness???

My '68 Coronado 25 hull which I'm trying to sell, is a little over an inch thick. The hull is over an inch thick, not the '68 Coronado 25. Well, actually the Coronado is over an inch thick too, but I meant the hull. And I'm trying to sell the whole boat, not just the hull.

Little literary linguistisization, there.

Anyway, Brewer said moving the mast a foot or so forward would cure the weather helm, but from what I hear, a sprit would do the same thing. And I'd kind of like a sprit. I think they look nice and would give a bit more wind-catching ability for more power. Or am I wrong on that? About the wind-catching ability, not the looking nice.
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