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05-14-2013 01:33 AM
Uricanejack
Re: British Columbia wilderness, sometime in next 3 years, any exp

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Whirlpools and tidal rips (not riptides, whole different thing) are shown on charts. This is Dent Rapids. The flood current direction changes in the Campbell River area. It floods from the north from there to the north end of the Island. Be aware of that.





Johnstone Strait tends to have a NW wind. Although I have seen 50 knot SE. You will not see the Pacific until you are past Hope Island.

The VHF weather channels can be found In Radio Aids to Marine Navigation. The Environment Canada Marine web site (Marine Weather - Environment Canada) is great. If ypu go outside use NOAA weatherfax (Northeast Pacific WX Briefing Package) and grib files



If you want to clear customs under sail go to Bedwell Harbour. There are few hassles. No apples, potatoes, guns, etc.. Check CBSA website (Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) - Home)
The flow of tidal current round VI meets at Midle Natch
04-30-2013 11:52 PM
Capt Len
Re: British Columbia wilderness, sometime in next 3 years, any exp

Most of the coast has cell coverage now. Any sheltered area will have 47 American power boats anchored with their prawn traps out and a Norwegian owned fish farm at the head. Regular chartered flights from Lake Union to most bays. and helicopter logging is common. We cruise 30 years too late. Lament.
04-30-2013 08:22 PM
limpyweta
Re: British Columbia wilderness, sometime in next 3 years, any exp

Some other things about this, now updated with more details on the blog:

If someone is thinking of any variation of a route or destinations to take out or add to the trip itineraries, suggestions are appreciated.

Local water taxis can swap crew out in many places all over the island and by Queen Charlotte Strait.

At the very least, a quarter of such passage making time on the boat will involve waiting for conditions to allow getting to the next reliable anchorage. Like what's noted here, this may be very well over half the passage making time. This could be time to work on many sorts of things, especially if it's in a usual mobile or wifi network (not likely). Crew could collectively get a satellite phone off ebay or something and use that sometimes. It could then be sold if the batteries and mobile network will still be working and compatible with it, unlike a rental. I may get one myself, or some high-powered VHF system, whatever would enable myself, in a forested valley, to, by chance, talk to someone in an emergency.
04-09-2013 02:34 PM
IMAnonymous
Re: British Columbia wilderness, sometime in next 3 years, any exp

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It was been a few years, but if I recall correctly, I think it was an equipment failure while they were a ways offshore on the west side.
Thanks. It had left me wondering. I was sailing an unsinkable (though "capsizable") boat. I was on the east side when becalmed. I'm guessing I might still be there still if I hadn't hitched a tow.
04-08-2013 01:32 PM
jackdale
Re: British Columbia wilderness, sometime in next 3 years, any exp

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So don't get me wrong. I'm not challenging you. I don't doubt your friend was rescued. I just think an explanation of why is in order.
It was been a few years, but if I recall correctly, I think it was an equipment failure while they were a ways offshore on the west side.
04-07-2013 08:43 AM
IMAnonymous
Re: British Columbia wilderness, sometime in next 3 years, any exp

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A friend tried to go round in a Taser and had to be rescued.
OK. I've been waiting a LONG time for a reply to this. But none has come. Exactly why did he have to be RESCUED?

I tried sailing it in an 8 footer once and - Yes- I had to be rescued too. Why? Because I was becalmed.

What's this guy's story? I find it difficult to believe that anyone with a retractable centerboard can't sail around Vancouver island. There are only three choices:

1) You swamped
2) You beached
3) You were becalmed

If #1 happened, your friend should not have lived to tell about it.

While we should all avoid doing STUPID the idea that people living on Vancouver Island all live in FEAR of launching a 12 foot sailboat without DYING should be addressed since the drowning records don't suggest this at all. Or, if they do, owners of 12 foot sailboats on Vancouver Island are the world's most daring sailors.

So don't get me wrong. I'm not challenging you. I don't doubt your friend was rescued. I just think an explanation of why is in order.
03-22-2013 09:54 PM
limpyweta
Re: British Columbia wilderness, sometime in next 3 years, any exp

Well, from what this has provoked from me, I guess this is something that's not really efficient to learn more about with just a forum. It's indeed good to know these sailors still exist.
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I have windjammed without an engine of any kind for several years on this coast. Takes a long time to get anywhere, so you best have indefinite plans
For some people, 14 days is indefinite, or "endless", for others, 3 months to a year is definite, or not a "long time".
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Expect to spend weeks in extremely doubtful anchorages, waiting for wind
Just my thoughts, not trying to pick your brain, but, like my other comments here, for myself and others not to be that simply discouraged from going and trying for themselves:
Where and when would this happen? How would one get into the situation of being in an extremely doubtful anchorage? How much wind is wind for the boat? What is the boat, and how does she and her sailors manage in light winds and sporadic calms? How do you look for a good anchorage? How may you test if the anchor is dragging? How do you anchor? What kind of anchors are they? How heavy are the anchors? What kind of rode? How much rode? How much and what kind of chain? What about stern and bow ties? What about a mushroom? Can one use a 3rd of a knot of current with a yuloh, or 2 sculling oars with a crew of 2, to get where some local winds or more favorable current are happening? When and where would an anchorage be doubtful in a calm? Could the weather be predicted in a way for someone to be on anchor watch, or prepared, if the winds and waves would otherwise pick up faster than the boat could avoid trouble (I've also been in this kinda situation, the bow tied to kelp, ready to get blown ashore, story for another time)? Is there a way crew could safely find new anchorage at night if the wind does pick up sometimes? What would this do to sleeping times?

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Also many commercial fishers and crawling with sport fishers. They all have engines now. Probably a good reason for that. Back in the day,before I was a kid ,folks did sail/row small dorys on the coast but most took a tow from the company packer.
There are many good reasons for them to have an engine, and a backup engine, or great maintenance and understanding of the thing with oars. There are times when it is not fun at all, and mentally and physically exhausting. My reasons and the reasons from other engineless sailors are on the blog.

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One problem that I've not found an answer for is 'How to get ashore with all the bears on the beach and even worse "how to get to the beached dinghy to return to mother ship". And then there's cougars
Again, sailors can stay on the boat if they want. From Bear Attacks: Their Causes and Avoidance, each year there are millions of times in which each bear species is close to people and no threat or injury results, and in North America in the 90's, bears killed 29 people, Grizzlies 18, black bears 11. From the BC Ministry of Environment: "In the past 100 years, a total of five people have been killed by cougar attacks in B.C. (in comparison, bees kill upwards of three Canadians every year). During the same period, there were 29 non-fatal attacks in British Columbia - 20 of which occurred on Vancouver Island. The vast majority of these attacks were on children under the age of 16." I know little of such encounters, but hope to learn more.

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Originally Posted by Capt Len View Post
...Also many commercial fishers and crawling with sport fishers. They all have engines now. Probably a good reason for that. Back in the day,before I was a kid ,folks did sail/row small dorys on the coast but most took a tow from the company packer.
There are many good reasons for *them* to have an engine, and a backup engine, or great maintenance and understanding of the thing with oars. There are times when pure sailing is not fun at all, and mentally and physically exhausting. My strange reasons and the reasons from other engineless sailors are on the blog.

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Originally Posted by Capt Len View Post
Getting up the Salish Sea to Surge Narrows is easy but going beyond asks for a bit of talent. If no engine think swampscot or Drascomb lugger, many seasons of learning curvs and longer anchor rodes than you've got.
What would a sailor learn in a season? What are the anchoring circumstances and the planning that got one into the situation where there probably isn't enough rode?
03-20-2013 05:47 PM
jackdale
Re: British Columbia wilderness, sometime in next 3 years, any exp

Brent

I can see that working.

Did you use Hole in the Wall or Beazley Passage? Did you have to anchor before getting through Upper Rapids? Octopus can be tough to get in and out of. Which side of Okis Islands? After that clear sailing - so to speak.

I just like to avoid Chatham Point late in the day, actually any time of day.
03-20-2013 04:38 PM
Brent Swain
Re: British Columbia wilderness, sometime in next 3 years, any exp

I've done dent rapids without an engine in light winds , but I find Okisollo channel the easiest, as there are plenty of places to stop and wait for slack water ,and very little traffic. Seymore narrows is far too busy for me.
03-20-2013 02:28 PM
limpyweta
Re: British Columbia wilderness, sometime in next 3 years, any exp

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