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06-13-2013 10:55 AM
Vasco
Re: ICW Latest Info

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
You know, advance planning is good and all that, but it seems to me you are over-analyzing all this, bigtime... No need to make it more complicated than it is, or be relying on just the right smartphone apps, or whatever... I'd suggest ignoring them for the time being, guesstimating this stuff on your own using times of high and low water will give you a far better understanding of how all this works, in the long run...

As I said in another reply to you months ago, if you hit the ICW/St John's River junction on the flood or near High Water at Mayport, you will ride a very favorable current into the landcut thru Palm Valley... Then, by the time you reach the Tolomato River, you should begin to pick up the ebb out of St Augustine Inlet, and have a nice ride down to there...

Rinse, and repeat... Leave St Augustine on the flood, passing Matanzas Inlet near HW, and at some point you will again pick up the ebb out of Ponce Inlet, and get a nice boost down towards Daytona/New Smyrna... Ride the flood again leaving NS, and you'll get a nice push out into Mosquito Lagoon...

And so on...
All good advice but the tides do not always cooperate. Waiting for the flood may take half of the daylight hours so we just get up in the morning and go. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. When on the Waterway heading south we go from Fernandina to Pine Island (just south of the Palm Valley cut) then go past St. Augustine on to Palm Coast (nice quiet anchorage) and then on to Daytona. Three fairly easy, short days. Our normal cruising speed is 6 knots, a fair current helps but if it's against you the day is a couple of hours longer.
06-13-2013 10:39 AM
PBzeer
Re: ICW Latest Info

Gotta second that about the markers, particularly if you're coming in from the north on the ICW.
06-13-2013 08:53 AM
ebs001
Re: ICW Latest Info

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Originally Posted by xort View Post
At Pablo Creek we hit slack or run with the current every time, perfectly.

How? simple. We have an ap called "currents" on my android. Gives great info on tidal flow. We have found it to be quite accurate.

You can sail in the Indian River if conditions are right.

Make darn sure you account for all the markers heading past the inlet at St Augustine. VERY confusing.
Good points, Xort, especially the last one. There are three sets of markers there, the ICW, the inlet and the channel into Salt Run. ICW marker "60" appears to be an inlet marker because it seems to be too far towards the sea. It is critical to respect this marker, especially at low tides. All charts I have seen that have a magenta line place that line on the wrong side of the marker.

Talking to the Tow BoatUS guy he said he makes a living off that shoal marked by buoy "60".
06-13-2013 08:43 AM
JonEisberg
Re: ICW Latest Info

You know, advance planning is good and all that, but it seems to me you are over-analyzing all this, bigtime... No need to make it more complicated than it is, or be relying on just the right smartphone apps, or whatever... I'd suggest ignoring them for the time being, guesstimating this stuff on your own using times of high and low water will give you a far better understanding of how all this works, in the long run...

As I said in another reply to you months ago, if you hit the ICW/St John's River junction on the flood or near High Water at Mayport, you will ride a very favorable current into the landcut thru Palm Valley... Then, by the time you reach the Tolomato River, you should begin to pick up the ebb out of St Augustine Inlet, and have a nice ride down to there...

Rinse, and repeat... Leave St Augustine on the flood, passing Matanzas Inlet near HW, and at some point you will again pick up the ebb out of Ponce Inlet, and get a nice boost down towards Daytona/New Smyrna... Ride the flood again leaving NS, and you'll get a nice push out into Mosquito Lagoon...

And so on...
06-13-2013 08:03 AM
xort
Re: ICW Latest Info

At Pablo Creek we hit slack or run with the current every time, perfectly.

How? simple. We have an ap called "currents" on my android. Gives great info on tidal flow. We have found it to be quite accurate.

You can sail in the Indian River if conditions are right.

Make darn sure you account for all the markers heading past the inlet at St Augustine. VERY confusing.
06-12-2013 05:06 PM
FSMike
Re: ICW Latest Info

I once went through the San Pablo bridge on my 26' gaff rigger with a very old 9.9 hp outboard. I dropped the jib and left the main up so I could motorsail through. The current was so strong and my engine so weak that I actually tacked once under the bridge to get through. That bridge seemed very narrow that day lol.
Long as you aren't fighting an ebb tide you'll do fine.
06-12-2013 08:56 AM
CoralReefer
Re: ICW Latest Info

I have always hit that bridge the wrong way everytime I have made the trip around. I'm in a 27' w/ 15 hp outboard but have never had a problem getting thru.
06-12-2013 08:29 AM
ebs001
Re: ICW Latest Info

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Originally Posted by Harborless View Post
So I can figure slack will be about an hour or hour fifteen minutes after low and high?

ill def call passing boats I think. that will probably be easiest. I think my first anchorage is RIGHT before that bridge in the little cut. So I will hole up their thurs and on friday morning low tide should be at 9 am around with slack around 10:15 and a flooding current?
The anchorage is close so I will be able to watch the water and run the gauntlet in the half hour or so I should have.

If I am wrong please point out where and thanks. You are all giving me great help. These insights will be used a lifetime so thanks and sorry if I am annoying or being dense.
here's what I have for Friday June 14th at Pablo Creek bridge.

slack 0334
max ebb 0621 5.2kts
slack 0921
max flood 1147 3.1kts
slack 1556

So you're good to go through anytime after morning slack.
06-12-2013 08:28 AM
MMR
Re: ICW Latest Info

Sign up for Tom and Mel Neale's East Coast alerts for notices impacting the ICW:

BoatUS Cruising Logs: Tom Neale
06-11-2013 08:43 PM
Harborless
Re: ICW Latest Info

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Originally Posted by CoralReefer View Post
Just made that trip. We left Friday from Palatka and anchored out at the Buchman Bridge in Orange Park. Saturday we we left at about 8:00am and docked at Comanche Cove in St Augustine around 5:00pm. Saturday we were against the tide and only avg @ 4.5 knots plus we were held up by a freighter being pushed out at Dames Point. Sunday we left St Aug @ 9:00am, made the 9:30 opening at Bridge of Lions. Cresent Beach Bridge opened as hailed. made it to our home port in Flagler Beach @ 4:00pm. Very nice and relaxing trip.
How was going under the San Pablo Bridge? That is the only place I am having concerns. How wide is the channel for going through? God forbid I run aground trying to go through because my 8 HP motor gets pushed by the current too far to either side.
I dont have a big engine like 90% of other boats. I am undersized and under powered so I have to get this right the first time.

I have full membership to towboat US but I dont want to need them.
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