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07-02-2013 09:15 PM
Re: More what's this rigging questions

This is pretty much the same setup as on my boat. reef line attached to the pad eye on the other side of the boom, goes through the eye on the sail, down through the cheek block and to the cleat close to the gooseneck. Except I moved the end of the line off the pad eye and looped it around the boom instead as I was worried about the solidity of the eye.

You are just missing the second reef line which follows the same course as the first but through the second set of eye and block
07-02-2013 09:12 PM
Re: More what's this rigging questions

Bill, thank you for the quick photo. Just as I surmised, your boat is set up for two double line reefs and also a “flattener reef”. When you go back to the boat, take a bunch of photos covering your entire rig (in case we want to talk about other things) and do an inventory of all the rigging bits and pieces (photos too) that are in your lazarette. From what I can see your rig is pretty well laid out but perhaps missing a piece or two. You also have something “strange” on the luff edge of the sail near the first reef tack cringle. It looks like a curlicue piece of stainless steel. Take a picture of that as it has me a little baffled. If it was mounted at the gooseneck it would be a ram’s head and where you would hook the tack cringle when you reef.

You should find a Cunningham somewhere which most likely be a couple of fiddle blocks with a shackle on one and a hook on the other. The hook part fits into the luff cringle that is a foot above the boom. Tightening the Cunningham will flatten the lower front portion of the mainsail. You use the Cunningham when the wind picks up and before you need to reef. A flat sail will shed wind gusts better and lessen the heeling. On older, “baggier” mains, you use the Cunningham a lot. The flattener on the leach end does the same to the back end of the sail.

To reef, you lower the mainsail halyard so you can slip the new tack cringle either around a ram’s head or by putting in the Cunningham hook and retightening. You haul in on the reefing line to bring the new clew cringle down so it lays on top of the boom and cleat it off. There are a couple of tricks like easing the mainsheet so you can get the cringle to lay flat but that is reefing in a nutshell. The second reef works the same way albeit, I was expecting on seeing a second cleat for that one. The chances are you will not need a second reef before next fall so we have time to figure that one out.

A couple more thoughts: Your Cal is “classic plastic” you should get plenty of enjoyment out of her. So far, the gear looks well thought out but it is real vintage (read old). Don’t be surprised if you are buying some new line in the future and that main is looking a bit on the stretched side (be sure to take pictures of it under sail).

You beat me to it - there is a Cunningham, good deal!
07-02-2013 08:51 PM
Re: More what's this rigging questions

There is a Cunningham on the port side of mast that can't be seen in pic.

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07-02-2013 08:50 PM
Re: More what's this rigging questions

Here is the best pic of the goose neck that I have.(if the gooseneck is where boom attaches to mast)

Again thanks to all...

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07-02-2013 08:44 PM
Re: More what's this rigging questions

Oh I should also add this boat (Swept Away) used to be a club racer and has extra rigging that Im have fun trying to figure out. It was raced by Robert Riggle of Seattle Singles Yacht Club. He was sadly killed by Somalian Pirates around a year or two ago. There are three halyards attached to the bow of the boat. It came with a spinnaker and spinnaker pole as well. Slowly getting it figured out.

Thanks for everyone's input.

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07-02-2013 08:32 PM
Re: More what's this rigging questions

For GeorgeB
When you say a pic of thr gooseneck... Im guessing that is where the boom attaches to the mast?

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07-02-2013 08:17 PM
Re: More what's this rigging questions

The boat is a 1970 Cal29, here is the best shot i have of the main.
Im a complete Newbie I havent even sailed a sailboat yet. I motored the boat 12 hrs up to Anacortes and been working loose ends.

She is moored about 75 miles north of me near San Juan Island in WA (Skyline Marina, Anacortes). I plan on spending the forth in the Juans I can get better pics then.

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07-02-2013 02:24 PM
Re: More what's this rigging questions

One thought is when running the coiled line could be ran all the way fwd and tensioned to hold the boom fwd... Like a preventor?
I'm thinking it has got to be the reefing line. Looks like there are two attachments on that side of the boom that look the same, and are in the correct position to attach the reefing line (goes through gromet in sail to the block on the other side). Also, unless it was wrapped around the boom, the fitting wouldn't be strong enough to be used as a preventer. Don't get why the line is too big for the block, however.
07-02-2013 01:13 PM
Re: More what's this rigging questions


I need a little more information before I can help you. Like what is the size and make of your boat, and can you provide a couple of pictures of both sides of your boom at the gooseneck as well as an over-all shot of your mainsail? From what I can see so far is your boat is in the mid twenty foot range and was probably built in the seventies to eighties time frame. BTW – what is your skill set (rookie, old salt, or somewhere in between?) I don’t want to inadvertently talk down to you.

Running rigging isn’t standardized across boats and what you are looking at is the result of one or multiple previous owners finding their own solutions to trimming and reefing their mainsail. The good news is it appears to be well thought out but a couple of things don’t make a lot of sense, and that is why I need some more info.

Let’s review what you have starting from the back of the boom. 1) An outhaul, 5/16 white, blue flake attached to the clew with a block and running forward on the port side of the boom. 2) an adjustable topping lift line attached with a shackle to the pigtail off the back stay. Where does this 5/16 white line attach to the boom? 3) A white/ red trace line looks like another topping lift that is attached at the top of the mast and runs through a block then up alongside the boom on the port side. 3) A cringle (the “correct” name for those big grommets) about 10 inches above the boom and 4) a pair of cheek blocks on the starboard side with corresponding eye straps angled on the port side. The aft most eye strap has a 3/8 line spliced to it with a splice on the other end. What I’m missing is the number of cringles on both the leech and luff of your main.

This is what I’m thinking: The cringle in the photo is for a “flattening reef”. You shackle the “topping reef” here, after disconnecting it from the pigtail. The angle of the eye straps indicate that the reefing line goes up through a higher up cringle then back down to the cheek block and cleated off near the gooseneck. Classic double line reefing set up. The eye strap/cheek block should not be directly below the reefing cringle as you want to be able to pull the sail both down and back. (A lot of people get this wrong.) The second strap and block would be for a second reef. The sail you have may or may not be set up for one but your boom is. The spliced loop on the reefing line doesn’t make a lot of sense in a classic double reef set up as it would be cleated off near the mast and the splice most certainly won’t feed through those cheek blocks. I’m thinking that it was originally used for something else.

Post those other photos and let me know if you wish to dialog some more. I have a couple more thoughts to share.
07-02-2013 12:33 PM
Re: More what's this rigging questions

The lowest eye on the leach may be just a flattening reef.....There may be no corresponding eye on the luff and if there is one it might just be the Cunningham
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