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12-30-2013 03:11 PM
randyrhines
Re: Buying a Cruiser

Jm f yo stck wth yor crtera the alled prncess hands down
12-30-2013 03:07 PM
randyrhines
Re: Buying a Cruiser

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Originally Posted by jimkyle99 View Post
i've been looking with much the same criteria for nine months, until i'm getting cross eyed. The april 09 issue of practical sailor has a comparison of "affordable cruising sailboats over 35 feet and under $75k". These are not true blue water boats but still capable of serious coastal hopping i think. They are: Allied princess 36, bristol 35.5, c&c landfall 38, endeavour 37, freedom 36, niagara 35, o'day 37, s2 11, and tartan 37. There is a lot of the allied, c&c and endeavour listed for sale in the se, the rest not so much but one or two usually. There are lots of other not so common boats on the market that i think would be just as suitable in theory. I'm at the point that i'll consider any boat that meets the general criteria and looks like it's priced right. Happy hunting
jm some of the oats yo lsted yo sholdnt rle ot , the alleds , especally the prncess get my vote most ang for the ck hands down, lt tff smple systems, relle flexle rg, easy to sal, t not fast, very comfortale , and they ft the dget especally the alled prncess[/i]
12-30-2013 02:59 PM
randyrhines
Re: Buying a Cruiser

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Originally Posted by jimkyle99 View Post
I've been looking with much the same criteria for nine months, until I'm getting cross eyed. The April 09 issue of practical Sailor has a comparison of "Affordable Cruising Sailboats over 35 feet and under $75k". These are not true blue water boats but still capable of serious coastal hopping I think. They are: Allied Princess 36, Bristol 35.5, C&C Landfall 38, Endeavour 37, Freedom 36, Niagara 35, O'Day 37, S2 11, and Tartan 37. There is a lot of the Allied, C&C and Endeavour listed for sale in the SE, the rest not so much but one or two usually. There are lots of other not so common boats on the market that I think would be just as suitable in theory. I'm at the point that I'll consider any boat that meets the general criteria and looks like it's priced right. Happy hunting
hi jim where is the criteria listed for blue water boats?
i own an allied princess ketch 36,1973 and sail her in some heavy weather, and first hand experience, she handles heavy weather, and stills comfortable in fairly steep 12' waves, I think she was designed for it.
07-28-2013 09:00 PM
normandavison
Re: Buying a Cruiser---- I finally know what I need- please advise

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Originally Posted by Advocate777 View Post
Based on all of your accumulative knowledge; I have the following criteria so I welcome feedback especially since this thread is about the 'best' boats:

1.) Don't tell me to 'keep looking and when you fall in love with a boat you will know. Unfortunately there are too many boats to 'date' while waiting to 'fall in love'
2.) Don't tell me to 'sail every boat you can to learn what you really want' because I have already been sailing on alot of boats and I have certain restrictive parameters.
3.) Don't tell me to 'buy a dinghy now and learn how to sail best and then buy a bigger boat' because I already know how to sail and I am an old man and may die soon. I can buy 'one boat' for my life, at my age.
4.) I need to find a boat that can be found on the east coast of the USA. I cannot afford to travel to Mexico, the BVI's, Asia, or Panama to find a 'great deal'.
5.) I need a boat that is 'blue water capable or blue water modifiable'. I am not interested in a day sailor no matter how fast it sails or how neat it is.
6.) I need a smaller-ish sailboat that can be single-handed or 'mom and pop' crewed by a 55 year old skipper and a 45 year old first mate.
7.) I need a used sailboat for about 50K.
8.) I need that 50K sailboat to have a good diesel engine as part of the 50K.
9.) I can put about 20K more into the boat to prepare it over a 3-5 year period.
10.) The boat should be mid to heavy displacement and with a full keel with a seakindly motion that does not cause us to puke our guts out in a seaway or 24-hour passage.
11.) Although I can learn 'diesel mechanics', I am not a talented 'Do it yourself- lets build a new bulkhead' kind of guy. I am not great at manual mechanic skills- I am more of the intellectual brain power doctor/lawyer type skills; ie., no 'do it youself' ability whatsoever.........but not such a rich lawyer or doctor that I can pay someone else to do everything. In other words; I cannot do a 'fix-me-up' boat because I suck at changing a light bulb (although if you have been arrested or in need of an appendectomy our crew can save you- ha-ha..)
Based on the above criterion.....does anybody have a 'top 10 blue water sailboats readily accessible for review on America's east coast that do not require major deck work or tens of thousands of dollars in refit costs for blue water work for a crew of 2?)

Is that asking too much?
Help me to focus.....I am getting weary of my sailboat search...
HELP! Any ideas on what boats to focus in on?
(And dont tell me to buy what my heart falls in love with...
Would you consider a 1982 Dufour 12000ct located in Florida?
07-26-2013 04:44 PM
kplodi
Re: Buying a Cruiser

I have a cruising sailboat for sale in your price range. PM me if you're interested and I'll send you my ad address.
07-23-2013 10:05 AM
mark2gmtrans
Re: Buying a Cruiser---- I finally know what I need- please advise

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Originally Posted by aeventyr60 View Post
mango madness in the islands.......
Ahh the delights of the juicy sweetness of mangoes.
07-23-2013 04:23 AM
aeventyr60
Re: Buying a Cruiser---- I finally know what I need- please advise

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I like mangoes, and I like the Caribbean too, eating mangoes while sailing would be just about perfect right now.

That is one of the great things about cruising, getting to eat stuff from other places.
mango madness in the islands.......
07-23-2013 12:54 AM
peterconway
Re: Buying a Cruiser

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Originally Posted by chuck53 View Post
You say you want a blue water capable boat. Are you planning on crossing oceans or are you planning on island hopping around the Carribbean?
I ask because I'm not sure I would trust a $50k boat to cross oceans with, but there are any number of $50k coastal cruisers that would be fine for island hopping when you are rarely more than 100 miles from land.
Funny to think that worry would set in at the 99 mile mark. I'm most scared from the slip to the last channel marker.
07-16-2013 02:30 PM
miatapaul
Re: Buying a Cruiser

I think the biggest problem is that your current use the Chesie, is not really conductive to full keel boats as there is the preponderance of light winds. Your description of use is really coastal with a few longer hops, so why put up with the performance hit of a full keel cruising boat in 99.9% of the time in case in the future you might want to go through the canal and across the Pacific? Why not get something that suits you needs now and in the foreseeable future, does not have to be your for ever boat. Just choose something that will sell reasonably quickly (fairly popular model) and you will not likely loose money as these older boats are all pretty much depreciated as much as they can.

Then if 10 years down the line you want a heavy cruiser you can trade to it. I can't see buying something in case you might want to do it 10 years down the line. In the meantime you can create a list of what you really want.

Certainly what you describe doing has been done by thousands of Hunter/Catalina/Beneteau/Cal/Ericson/et all in the past. You are not talking long off shore passages but island hopping for the most part. Heck we have Arron here on the site that does regular hops from Florida to Central America in a sub 30 foot Columbia (if memory serves me right) with no motor.
07-16-2013 01:13 AM
Rhapsody-NS27
Re: Buying a Cruiser---- I finally know what I need- please advise

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I like the Nor'Sea for sure- one would do the trick 'Cept they seem pretty scarce here on the east coast
Good boats. I like the Nor'sea

I only know of this listing available at the moment. This ad used to have pictures but doesn't seem to be included this time.
1976 Nor'Sea Sailboat
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